AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

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AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby GiSWiG » 2017-10-30 @ 01:14

I was thinking of upgrading my AWE64 Value to a Gold. Soon, I'll be using an external MIDI synth via USB to SC-55 or MT-32 emulator but eventually the real deal.

Is it worth upgrading from the Value to the Gold?
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby ElectroMan » 2017-10-30 @ 01:43

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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby GiSWiG » 2017-10-30 @ 02:19

I think I'll hold off until I don't know what else to buy. I've got DOSBox setup to use the Sound Canvas VA, MUNT and the Yamaha S-YXG50 and I can display them on a second monitor but having the real box, that orange backlit LCD, just seems so cool (yes, the SC-55) but I definitely would love a MT-32 too. Once I got that going on a nice DOS/Win98 PC, then I'll consider the AWE64 Gold.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby firage » 2017-10-31 @ 05:14

Yeah, the differences aren't huge. The 4MB onboard SoundFont capacity might make a difference, depending on your needs.

The AWE64 Gold (CT4390/CT4540) has RCA line outputs and no amplifier chip. Other AWE64's (CT4380, CT4500, CT4520) have a TDA1517P driving a speaker output, which is also usual on other mid-90's Sound Blasters after the TEA2025B. I don't think there's been any real consensus about one design outperforming the other, quality wise.

The big chips are pretty similar. The Gold had two further mixer revisions (CT1745A-S and -SCP), and the CT4540 has another revision of the main AWE chip. The CT4520 is a lot more integrated than the rest, don't know much about them.

Lastly, you get a coax SPDIF output header (and bracket, unless lost) with the Gold.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby appiah4 » 2017-10-31 @ 10:19

Yeah it's a significant upgrade. The 4MB onboard RAM can hold some significant SF2 soundfonts including the 4MB Creative one, the SCCT and the Yamaha XG ones. And that can make a huge difference.

That said, given what a Gold usually costs you may want to grab one of the SIMMCONN adapters currently in production by Dreamblaster instead IMO.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby leileilol » 2017-10-31 @ 22:22

ElectroMan wrote:I would probably grab something like AWE32 with SIMM slots instead (less hassle in my opinion)

until the noise floor gets to you that is
Voodoo2s aren't 100mhz stock
Geforce256 isn't released as a beta on New Years '99 under the Quadro brand
DOS gaming isn't a bilinear 320x200 16:10
DOS PCs aren't better than the Macintosh
DOSBox is not for running Windows 9x
SGL != Glide
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby dexvx » 2017-11-01 @ 17:11

Finding a good AWE32 (CT2760, CT3980) is more expensive than an AWE64 Gold + new SIMMCONN.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby CodeFuApprentice » 2017-11-07 @ 20:41

Many years ago, i wanted to get an AWE64 Gold, though when i discovered the memory upgrades were more difficult to acquire, i went for an AWE 32.
Wait....CT2760? How expensive?....what kind of price do they sell for?
I only ask because after i bought mine in 2000, i ended up buying a second one as it was bundled with the DB50XG daughterboard i have. (Both were second hand when i bought them, and i got them cheap) Basically i only needed 1...though i kept both of them all these years.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby The Serpent Rider » 2017-11-10 @ 06:08

Finding a good AWE32 (CT2760, CT3980) is more expensive than an AWE64 Gold + new SIMMCONN.

Sound Blaster 32 models got you covered.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby MKT_Gundam » 2017-11-12 @ 12:16

Hi guys
I just got a AWE32 3670 ( use AWE 64 chips) and i have 2 x 1MB 30-pin ram to put. Will be enough to load some basic soundfonts?
I am aware about the lack of true OPL3 and i plan to use it on my p2 450 with win98SE. I want just use for later and non speed sensitive DOS games.
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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Postby chinny22 » 2017-11-17 @ 14:22

MKT_Gundam wrote:Hi guys
I just got a AWE32 3670 ( use AWE 64 chips) and i have 2 x 1MB 30-pin ram to put. Will be enough to load some basic soundfonts?
I am aware about the lack of true OPL3 and i plan to use it on my p2 450 with win98SE. I want just use for later and non speed sensitive DOS games.


Its more then the 512kb onboard so wont hurt to have it.
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