Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

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Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby andreja6 » 2017-11-13 @ 02:25

I've recently gotten an ESS Audiodrive 1868F sound card, and it has been functioning beautifully as a SB Pro II clone, with the minor issue of some games not even detecting SB compatibility...

Games such as Titus the fox and Ultima 6 don't play any music from the sound card but the PC Speaker (Ultima 6 always plays sound through that speaker).
However games like The Incredible Machine with known problems detecting sound blasters, detects and works fine with the Audiodrive.

I don't plan on replacing it, because when it works (which is 99.9% of the time), it sounds perfect. I had a Sound Blaster Live! with SB emulation, and that was so horrible it put me off creative sound cards that have anything to do with emulation (even SB16's that don't specify a true OPL3 chip)
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby BitWrangler » 2017-11-13 @ 03:18

Played Titus on a few machines, though not recently, and TBH I can't remember it using anything other than the speaker on any of them... or having a setup to select sound card.
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby andreja6 » 2017-11-13 @ 03:43

BitWrangler wrote:Played Titus on a few machines, though not recently, and TBH I can't remember it using anything other than the speaker on any of them... or having a setup to select sound card.

Apparently it has a dreaded Auto detect which which many couldn't get working. Shame
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby badmojo » 2017-11-13 @ 04:18

I could be wrong but I think some auto detection routines are impact by the speed of the machine? Those are some pretty old games - what are the rest of your specs?
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby andreja6 » 2017-11-13 @ 04:49

badmojo wrote:I could be wrong but I think some auto detection routines are impact by the speed of the machine? Those are some pretty old games - what are the rest of your specs?

I would not be surprised at all, It's a Pentium II 400Mhz with a VooDoo3, 640MB PC100 RAM and an Intel BX440 Chip-set, And sure enough when I ran it using a slowdown utility, Sound Blaster sound!
However can't say the same for Ultima 6...
Is there any other work-around other than using a slowdown utility? I've been using them for Lotus III, and they are relatively inaccurate
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby Cyberdyne » 2017-11-13 @ 07:07

I usually use a Pentium 2/3, and use CPUCACHE Disabled for older games. It works perfectly.
I really do not need moslow or some other elaborate TSR slow down program.
And yes, many games have problems with sound detecting and playback in fast computers.
I am aroused about any X86 stuff that has full functional ISA stuff. I think i have problem.
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby 640K!enough » 2017-11-13 @ 19:33

Sometimes, it also helps to set 8- and 16-bit I/O recovery time as high as they will go on such systems, assuming you have such a setting. Try experimenting with different values to see if it helps.
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby Phreeze » 2017-11-16 @ 13:38

have you configured it on IRQ7 ? so games only try to detect the SB on irq7, especially older games when 7 was the standard and not 5
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby Cyberdyne » 2017-11-16 @ 13:51

Ok and few games only work in sound blaster pro mode, it the T is set to 4 not 5 as some sources sugest.

Hocus Pocus comes to mind.
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby BitWrangler » 2017-11-16 @ 14:05

Yah, I've come across that, game ignores T5 or T6 but will work with it set to T4

(BLASTER environment variable for ppl having trouble following.)
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Re: Some games don't detect SB II Compatible sound card

Postby andreja6 » 2017-11-16 @ 17:11

BitWrangler wrote:Yah, I've come across that, game ignores T5 or T6 but will work with it set to T4

(BLASTER environment variable for ppl having trouble following.)


I have a T4 card, and have set it to T4... still happens :/
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