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First post, by MKT_Gundam

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The Roland D110 a good MIDI alternative for roland SC?
I just find Only the Roland U110 variant on DOS games on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbxLDQjXhMA&l … B469B4C&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn--q2B-dD0&l … B469B4C&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-hmt7jQUbM&i … 91FF77D7B469B4C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyoQQ2xdujg&i … 91FF77D7B469B4C

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Reply 1 of 3, by ghogan42

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MKT_Gundam wrote:
The Roland D110 a good MIDI alternative for roland SC? I just find Only the Roland U110 variant on DOS games on youtube: https:/ […]
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The Roland D110 a good MIDI alternative for roland SC?
I just find Only the Roland U110 variant on DOS games on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbxLDQjXhMA&l … B469B4C&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn--q2B-dD0&l … B469B4C&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-hmt7jQUbM&i … 91FF77D7B469B4C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyoQQ2xdujg&i … 91FF77D7B469B4C

Google says that the D-110 is a linear arithmetic based synth like the MT-32 (and D-10, D-50, etc). It predates general midi and wouldn't be a substitute for a Sound Canvas module, or for a mt-32 either. I think it shares a lot of the mt-32 instruments, but I think there are differences that would make it not work the same as a mt-32.

The U-110 is a sample based synth. So it's different than the D-110 and more like the Sound Canvas modules. But it also predates general midi and would be incompatible with both mt-32 stuff and general midi stuff.

If you want a "Sound Canvas" substitute, then you probably need to look for a general midi logo on the front panel as a minimum. And all of the Roland gm synths are probably called "Sound Canvas" anyway. So basically, if you want a sound canvas substitute from a random manufacturer then you want a "General Midi" module. And if you want a sound canvas substitute from Roland, then you want an actual sound canvas.

Reply 2 of 3, by yawetaG

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The Roland D-110 and U-110 are not General MIDI compatible, and in fact much older than the SC series. They are interesting as music composition tools, but not for playing game MIDI music. They won't know what to do with it, because they don't know anything about the GM spec and their own MIDI spec is much different from the standardised GM set of instructions. Perhaps you'd get out some sound, whenever anything accidentally matches, but it won't correspond to whatever GM MIDI sequence was in the original file...

Reply 3 of 3, by Shponglefan

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ghogan42 wrote:

If you want a "Sound Canvas" substitute, then you probably need to look for a general midi logo on the front panel as a minimum. And all of the Roland gm synths are probably called "Sound Canvas" anyway. So basically, if you want a sound canvas substitute from a random manufacturer then you want a "General Midi" module. And if you want a sound canvas substitute from Roland, then you want an actual sound canvas.

FWIW, there are other modules from Roland that support General MIDI such as their JV-series, XV-series, Studio Canvas, and so on. However, these modules are generally overkill for GM use and the JV-series suffers unfortunate latency issues with patch switching.

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