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First post, by peklop

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Hi,

i searching for miro card with mWave chip and found naming chaos. Pleace someone link right product names with PCB revisions? And modem speeds.
Source: http://www.mirosupport.de/commu/online/online.html
Product names are:

1. miroConnect 34
2. miroConnect 34 WAVE
3. miroMedia Online
4. miroMedia Online PnP
5. Packard Bell oem card codenamed - Miro Cassius Sound Card-28.8
HP oem card
miroMEDIA RADIO Upgrade - only for Online and Online PnP cards and not for 34 / 34 wave?

PCB versions are:
YPCB-BRAZA 2.1;2.2;2.4 = Connect 34/Online
YPCB-BRAZA 2.7 = Online pnp

Modem speeds:
28,8 kbps (34 /online/ wave)
33,6 kbps (online/ online pnp)

Why is number 34 in name of cards with only 28 modem and not 34?

CD Interfaces: Sony, Mitsumi, Panasonic, E-IDE
mirosupport.de page is probably wrong. All photos i found without milti-CD interface. And long connector is listed as RADIO upgrade. Or only short is for radio and long is EIDE?
I think all cards have EIDE connector.

Codec chips are:
1. Crystal CS4218-KL
2. Media Vision MVSpectrum MVA416 (with Crystal logo)
or other Crystal chip?

BUS chips (near ISA connector are):
1. small with MIRO logo
2. small PALCE with AMD logo (type unreadable from photo)
3. big µPD65646GD-216 used at latest PnP cards 2.7 - http://radiocom.dn.ua/image/data/pdf/2SB897_NEC.pdf

Where find miroMEGA or miroSUPPORT CDs with drivers?

From my search.
miroMedia Online is latest cars and only with PnP support. It is card with board YPCB-BRAZA 2.7 and big Bus chip µPD65646GD-216
Here si manual. PnP is visible from screenshots: http://www.mirosupport.de/commu/online/mopnpg.pdf

Packard Bell Miro Cassius is same card because is PnP too. But why is modem only 28 and not 34?
Thanks dionb for link: http://j12345.users1.50megs.com/menu/soundcar … miroman.asp.htm
He wrote card is miroConnect34V . What the hell why is PnP card named Connect and not Online PnP? 😀

YPCB-BRAZA 2.1 is first revision and it is probably miroConnec t34, because it is first card. Or Connect 34 Wave?

Is Connect 34 YPCB-BRAZA 2.1, Connect 34 Wave YPCB-BRAZA 2.2 and Online (non PnP) YPCB-BRAZA 2.4?

i found some photos and auctions but names are probably wrong.

I will post links to some photo in reply.

Last edited by peklop on 2019-04-29, 17:38. Edited 2 times in total.

Reply 1 of 6, by peklop

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1. This is Connect 34 Wave. Listed as 2SCO34G
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/IBM-Mwave-Mdsp2780-2 … -ISA/2005278275
readable is:
miro CONNECT 34 wave label at modem module
small miro bus chip
Crystal logo at codec chip
long connector - EIDE?
short connector with one jumper - for radio module or jumper setting
no other pins for jumpers
- unknown is PCB revision, And photo of back side.

2.
unnamed card listed as Connect 34 od Dolphin - i think wrong name and this card is Online PnP
https://www.ebay.de/itm/ISA-Modem-u-Soundcard … tc/323683728418
big uPD bus chip
Crystal codec chip
long connector - EIDE?
short connector named Radio - one jumper in same position as at first card
no other jumpers
MIRGER2.7 label at modem
YPCB-BRAZA-2.7 , FCCID LAHCON34-ISA-2 and miro logo printed at PCB front side
BRAZIL2.7 label at back sice
unreadable if is another YPCB-BRAZA photoetched to PCB.
etched 4396 is week of 1996? Chips are probably from 1996 too.
FCC ID was registered August 1996 https://fccid.io/LAHCON34-ISA-2 - Pinnacle is miro
Why is name CON34 if card name is not Connect34? Probably because they already registered https://fccid.io/LAHCON34-ISA-1 for older cards,

3.
unknown card with modem removed:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/323554954168?
small bus chip without miro logo - amd PAL?
MVA416 codec
Long connector - is 2nd IDE readable?
short connector - radio connector at early PCB card?
no other jumpers - only pins for CD and TV internal audio cables
YPCB-BRAZA-2.2 etched readable near SRAM chips. etched miro logo readable near jacks because modem module is removed.
2SC034G-ISX41 at backside label
Is this card Connect 34 or Connect 32 Wave? Is PCB same as first card which is Wave? i cant see differences. Only buschip and codec without logo.

4. Packard Bell miro card:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/db/b9/5ddbb … aff93205bd5.jpg
Now confusion for me. is this card miro Cassius?
If yes, is Plug and Play? if yes, why use small bus chip like older nonPnP cards?
sadly YPBC-BRAZ2.x is unreadable
Is name at modem label 2SCONN 34? Is it Connect 34 or Connect 34 Wave with added PnP function?

5. YPCB-BRAZA2.2 with modem removed again
https://allegro.pl/oferta/karta-muzyczna-miro … 2780-7907373371
Almost same as card number .
Codec again MVA416.
But now bus chip with miro logo and is readable:
BRICB1-12
ORBIT 6577A
year is 1996?

Last edited by peklop on 2019-04-29, 17:33. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 2 of 6, by peklop

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miroCONNECT 34 Wave box and card photo by Arctic:
Re: My Socket 7 "1997" Project
miro_1.jpg
Miro-AG-miroConnect34-wave-ISA-Modem-und-Soundkarte-1995_thumb.jpg
bus chip is small with miro logo

miroMedia Online PnP photo from mirosupport.de http://www.mirosupport.de/commu/online/online.html
monlinep.jpg
monlinepnp.jpg
better photo: https://www.computer-retro.de/Bilder/Soundkar … dkarte-1995.jpg
bus chip is big

miroMEDIA radio upgrade box:
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verka … rade-304255172/
They wrote for "miroMEDIA Online" and not for miroConnect34 Wave.
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Reply 3 of 6, by peklop

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Archived miro website from 1997 year:
https://web.archive.org/web/19970410204356fw_ … a/mediaonl.html
+ radio https://web.archive.org/web/19970410204403fw_ … ia/mediara.html
https://web.archive.org/web/19970410195525/ht … e/produkte.html

Only miroMedia Online. No info about Connect 34 series
Card is named only Online and not Online PnP. But from spect is Plug and Play.
Modem is only 28?

Nexht confusion 🙁
Are Online and Online PnP two separate cards?

and next..
mirosupport linked Online (separate from Online PnP) manual to Connect 34:
http://www.mirosupport.de/commu/online/monlineg.pdf
But file is named online. And inside manual is only Connect without 34 and without Wave

Online PnP manual have PnP in name: http://www.mirosupport.de/commu/online/mopnpg.pdf

Reply 4 of 6, by peklop

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Post from Bancho.
is this first version of the card 2.1?
Is it YPCB-BRAZA2.1?
If yes, is it miroConnect 34 or 34 Wave?

Subject: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Bancho wrote:
Just some Sound cards today. Labway ESS Solo-1 and what i think is a Miro Connect 34 Wave Minus the Modem Module. […]
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Just some Sound cards today. Labway ESS Solo-1 and what i think is a Miro Connect 34 Wave Minus the Modem Module.

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Reply 5 of 6, by zapedge

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Just wanted to add a few pictures of my miro connect34 for the history books 😉

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Reply 6 of 6, by dionb

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Regarding the 28k/34 confusion:
Firstly, the original ITU-T V.34 standard defined a 28.8kbps data rate. The '34' in the names of these devices referenced that standard, not a 33.6kbps rate, so there's no contradiction there.

But... the mWave was an advanced DSP and these cards were basically software modems with the software running on the DSP, not the system CPU. That meant that the actual modem functionality could be upgraded.

In 1996, the V.34 standard was updated to support 33.6kbps data rates. This was sometimes referred to as V.34bis or V.34plus, but the standard remained V.34.

IBM upgraded the mWave basecode to allow the modem to be upgraded to V.34-1996 standard and 33.6kbps data rates. Not 100% sure if Miro released drivers based on them, but this was at the peak of Miro's success and fame, so I suspect they would have.