No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

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No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby kirikl » 2019-5-13 @ 23:52

Hello everyone.
Can't get music work in early games under Windows 98. Using SoundBlaster 16 ISA, neither FM or External Midi. Little later games like The Incredible Machine 3 is working fine, Midisoft Studio program also good and it's using Midi Mapper as well as early games as I understand. Later DirectX games is different story maybe... but here, same era programs work and don't work.
What's wrong? Any ideas?

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Tower based on K6-2+ 500
SB 16 FM ISA + MT32 + SC55

Software:
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Re: No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby collector » 2019-5-14 @ 01:43

Ask old hardware and driver/configuration questions in Marvin. viewforum.php?f=60 As per the pinned topic in this forum: "This forum is for running old Windows games on NEW (supported) versions of Windows"
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Re: No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby Stiletto » 2019-5-14 @ 08:43

Moved.
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Re: No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby Jo22 » 2019-5-14 @ 11:20

kirikl wrote:Hello everyone.
Can't get music work in early games under Windows 98. Using SoundBlaster 16 ISA, neither FM or External Midi. Little later games like The Incredible Machine 3 is working fine, Midisoft Studio program also good and it's using Midi Mapper as well as early games as I understand. Later DirectX games is different story maybe... but here, same era programs work and don't work.
What's wrong? Any ideas?

Hi, may I ask if the PC speaker is connected ? :)
Some of the early games, like WinTrek (BFM) or Jiji, used to use PC speaker for sound effects/music.

There's an optional header on the SB16 that could be connected to the motherboard, also.
- Just beware that the wires must be connected with correct polarity.

Anyway, it's just an idea. Some other early games did indeed use FM
(direct OPL2 access) or MIDI (check game's directory for *.MID files). :)
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Re: No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby kirikl » 2019-5-15 @ 00:41

Jo22 wrote:
kirikl wrote:Hello everyone.
Can't get music work in early games under Windows 98. Using SoundBlaster 16 ISA, neither FM or External Midi. Little later games like The Incredible Machine 3 is working fine, Midisoft Studio program also good and it's using Midi Mapper as well as early games as I understand. Later DirectX games is different story maybe... but here, same era programs work and don't work.
What's wrong? Any ideas?

Hi, may I ask if the PC speaker is connected ? :)
Some of the early games, like WinTrek (BFM) or Jiji, used to use PC speaker for sound effects/music.

There's an optional header on the SB16 that could be connected to the motherboard, also.
- Just beware that the wires must be connected with correct polarity.

Anyway, it's just an idea. Some other early games did indeed use FM
(direct OPL2 access) or MIDI (check game's directory for *.MID files). :)


It is connected. But that is not the case. Pc Speaker works fine out of SBlaster. The games itself use sound effects just fine, just no MIDI. FM or External... Unknown mysterious reason. Checked on the same machine - in W3.1 - fine, Windows XP is fine. Both Midi and sound. One time I got error MCI is not registered... or something... Wondering, where is it? I guess I need to deal with System.ini probably, just wondering what exactly I should put in there, since it is basically register for W3.x era
HP TC4200 2GB, SSD 120GB
Sony Vaio PCG-SRX99, 40GB HDD
Sony Vaio PCG-505TR, 32GB SSD
Sony Vaio Picturebook, Crusoe
Compaq LTE Elite 4/75CXL - 486
PowerBook G3 WS - PPC G3
iBook G3 Clamshell 300
Roland Sound Canvas 55ST
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Re: No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby Jo22 » 2019-5-15 @ 01:29

Oh, okay. Sorry then. Maybe the MIDI mapper (-what's left of it-) of Windows 98 is configured in a wrong way.
It's just a wild guess, though. :(

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Re: No MIDI Music in early win 3.x and win95 games

Postby kirikl » 2019-5-16 @ 05:47

Guys, thank you for advices. But I gave up. Reinstalling... This OS was transferred from laptop long time ago... it still has icon of PCMCIA in Control panel. I think It's time to reinstall OS + service pack + additional stuff. Not big deal :)
HP TC4200 2GB, SSD 120GB
Sony Vaio PCG-SRX99, 40GB HDD
Sony Vaio PCG-505TR, 32GB SSD
Sony Vaio Picturebook, Crusoe
Compaq LTE Elite 4/75CXL - 486
PowerBook G3 WS - PPC G3
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