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Reply 142 of 784, by Deksor

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This is hilarious. To me creative didn't make many good sound cards, most had some had flaws in a way or another. The only cards I consider as "decent" are the 1st gen cards, because they did everything the others did, but better, with more functionalities and for cheaper. They did have some problems, but they had the excuse of it being their first successful product. Afterwards, they have no excuse.

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Reply 143 of 784, by Fagear

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hard1k wrote:

...strange behaviour of the Line In jack on CT4520. In fact, it did mono while it was clearly supposed to be a stereo input. CT4390 acted the same. We've become curious, traced the signal, and had to desolder the jack, and we've found a jumper trace there, shortening L and R channels of the stereo input!

Those two "inside" pins are connected to "outside" pins of the connector only when there is nothing plugged into the connector. This function can be used to redirect signal to another connector (as I do on SSI-2001/DuoSID/FMonster), or, if it is an input, to short input to ground to prevent noise pickup. So, I presume, that trace in between is going to analog ground.
When something IS plugged into the connector, those two pins connect to nothing. And what matters most are "outside" pins.

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Reply 146 of 784, by hard1k

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Hey guys,

Just as a minor update and to confirm that we're still alive and kicking:

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Reply 149 of 784, by the Goat

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maxtherabbit wrote:
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The joystick/midi port looks way too low.

It should be fine down there

I remember having to remove a composite video out RCA jack placed down low like that. The motherboard had a capacitor that was in the way. That was an AGP card. So there was only one slot I could use.

Reply 150 of 784, by maxtherabbit

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the Goat wrote:
maxtherabbit wrote:
the Goat wrote:

The joystick/midi port looks way too low.

It should be fine down there

I remember having to remove a composite video out RCA jack placed down low like that. The motherboard had a capacitor that was in the way. That was an AGP card. So there was only one slot I could use.

good point, I was thinking strictly from a rear bracket standpoint

Reply 151 of 784, by appiah4

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It might clash with a lot of capacitors, headers and socketed ICs (especially keyboard controllers) that motherboard manufacturers loved to inconveniently place there.

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Reply 154 of 784, by LightStruk

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the Goat wrote:

The joystick/midi port looks way too low.

Indeed. Some cases (my old Gateway 486 included) have a bezel that encroaches on the bottom of the expansion slots. On an ordinary SB16 the game port was partially obscured; with this design, most of the game port would be.

Reply 155 of 784, by hard1k

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Guys, it's as low as on the regular SB16/AWE64/Vibra cards, not lower, not higher. However if we find a way to raise it higher a bit, we'll do that. But so far it looks not too probable tbh.

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Reply 157 of 784, by hard1k

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In fact it was our initial plan. But people complained too much, just read the topic from the beginning.
It seems you can't please everyone.

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Reply 158 of 784, by hard1k

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Well, not *exactly* this one, but still - we wanted to make a 15-pin onboard header with the DB15 on the IDC cable.

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Reply 159 of 784, by maxtherabbit

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DNSDies wrote:

Have you considered using a DB15 3-row header and just making a converter cable?
It would allow you to use a smaller footprint on the connector.

I'd much rather have to deal with moving slots to avoid mechanical interference than deal with some stupid dongle