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Reply 40 of 149, by root42

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matze79 wrote on 2020-06-04, 13:21:

Recieved the PCB today and a Fake ehh SwinSID, thx root42 !
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You're welcome! I will try to assemble my board over the weekend. Got all the components now, I think.

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Reply 41 of 149, by Benedikt

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Mine have arrived, as well.

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Thanks for the small group-buy, root42!

Reply 42 of 149, by root42

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Sunday I will do a livestream for the card. 20:30 CEST / 18:30 UTC.

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Reply 43 of 149, by carlostex

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Awesome, too bad there was little native SID support. I would love Planet X3 support for the SID chip.

There's also the custom SSI driver for John Miles Audio Interface Library which can work well in some games.

I made a video of Legend of Kyrandia with the custom AIL driver for the SSI some time ago:

https://youtu.be/_0uUVfC7e94

Reply 44 of 149, by Benedikt

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root42 wrote on 2020-06-04, 19:15:

Sunday I will do a livestream for the card. 20:30 CEST / 18:30 UTC.

And I'll be watching!
Don't forget to check in advance whether you need Fagear's compatibility mod for fast ISA buses.
It would still be possible after assembly, but the square pad simplifying it would then be hidden below a chip.

carlostex wrote on 2020-06-06, 11:02:

Awesome, too bad there was little native SID support. I would love Planet X3 support for the SID chip.

I'd like to add support to Planet X3 at some point, but wanting to have it does not magically double my spare time, so don't hold your breath for it.

Reply 45 of 149, by root42

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Benedikt wrote on 2020-06-06, 12:47:
And I'll be watching! Don't forget to check in advance whether you need Fagear's compatibility mod for fast ISA buses. It would […]
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root42 wrote on 2020-06-04, 19:15:

Sunday I will do a livestream for the card. 20:30 CEST / 18:30 UTC.

And I'll be watching!
Don't forget to check in advance whether you need Fagear's compatibility mod for fast ISA buses.
It would still be possible after assembly, but the square pad simplifying it would then be hidden below a chip.

You will have to walk me through this on the stream. 😉 I have no idea what Fagear proposed! I will be running it on a 25 MHz 386.

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Reply 46 of 149, by Benedikt

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A 25 MHz 386 should technically be slow enough. There's a note in the schematic describing the mod, in case you want to do it, anyway.
In any case, I suggest that you print out both, the schematic and the component diagram.
The schematic because it contains helpful notes and the component diagram because there are no component designators or component values on the silk screen.

Reply 47 of 149, by root42

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Yes, I wanted to print out the note layer of the PCB to be able to identify the components.

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Reply 48 of 149, by matze79

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i will watch you on sunday and assemble the pcb right after you 😀 maybe it saves me some time

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Reply 49 of 149, by root42

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Stream starts in 15 minutes.

https://youtu.be/0BeAUigWrrg

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Reply 50 of 149, by Benedikt

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root42 wrote on 2020-06-07, 18:13:

Stream starts in 15 minutes.

https://youtu.be/0BeAUigWrrg

Erm... Looks like you're populating everything for the STM32 configuration, including the resistors that set the regulator to 3.3V.
And no, JP2 would short out the regulator. JP2 is for the configuration without regulator.

It's also funny to watch you try to solder 0603 SMD parts without holding them in place.

Reply 52 of 149, by Benedikt

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Congratulations on getting it working!

Let's see when I will find the time to adapt the STM32 emulation core for the optional on-board STM32.
That should result in an even cheaper solution than a fully assembled card plus SwinSID.

Reply 54 of 149, by Benedikt

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MJay99 wrote on 2020-06-07, 21:34:

Great Job in reversing / cloning it - and awesome to hear it work!

Well, as indicated in the first post, most of the reverse engineering had long been done by others.
CodeKiller's annotated board photos from 2012 where particularly useful. The optional mod for fast ISA buses is by Fagear.
I merely re-reverse-engineered everything from there and added the still untested option to use readily available new components rather than vintage parts.

Reply 55 of 149, by root42

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Glad it worked out in the end! 😁 Now waiting for my 558s. I also shared a Mouser project, using the blank bracket and the SSOP-14 NE556s. Should be complete, apart from the STM32 (but including it's supporting resistors/caps):

https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/Project … ssID=7cafd92be9

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Reply 57 of 149, by root42

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MJay99 wrote on 2020-06-07, 22:22:
root42 wrote on 2020-06-07, 22:14:

Now waiting for my 558s.

They're gonna be on the way tomorrow. Thanks for the live stream!

Big thanks!

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Reply 58 of 149, by root42

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Benedikt wrote on 2020-03-09, 12:44:

After some rearrangements of the SMD passives I have found enough space for a bypass capacitor for the 12V line.
These rearrangements also allowed me to further minimize the visible differences.
There's still four additional traces on the back side of the board, but they are now much shorter and do not shift other traces anymore.

Could you also make a fork for a card that fits the Keystone DB15 bracket? That way people could opt for a not-so-authentic look with an almost readymade bracket (apart from the RCA hole). Otherwise I might just make a fork and try to do it myself. Have never done anything in Kicad. 😉

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Reply 59 of 149, by Benedikt

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root42 wrote on 2020-06-08, 07:42:

Could you also make a fork for a card that fits the Keystone DB15 bracket? That way people could opt for a not-so-authentic look with an almost readymade bracket (apart from the RCA hole). Otherwise I might just make a fork and try to do it myself. Have never done anything in Kicad. 😉

Nope. Still not interested. I'd rather try to finish the project before I expand it further. However, feel free to have a go at it!
Apropos connector: Are you sure that the DA15 socket you installed has the correct dimensions? It appears to stick out a bit, while at least the plastic part should be flush with the edge of the board.