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Reply 20 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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Got a chance to test this on a Dell SB0220 that a friend gave me.

It worked fine on that card as well.

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Reply 22 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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jay_t_yo wrote on 2020-09-28, 08:44:

Confirmed working with a CT4670 (Value) and SB0100, both with Windows 98 SE

Cheers! Added to the list.

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Reply 23 of 58, by Soulreaper

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Is this a solution for me to use my sound canvas with my live! card? in windows 98!

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Reply 24 of 58, by Pierre32

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Great guide OP. I have an SB0100 and will try this out next time my Win98 system is on the bench.

I went through the wringer trying to get my SB1070 (low profile Sound Blaster VX) working last week with no success. Reckon it's worth trying this method with that card, or is the CA0106 chip a dead end in Win98?

Reply 25 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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Pierre32 wrote on 2021-01-20, 07:14:

Great guide OP. I have an SB0100 and will try this out next time my Win98 system is on the bench.

I went through the wringer trying to get my SB1070 (low profile Sound Blaster VX) working last week with no success. Reckon it's worth trying this method with that card, or is the CA0106 chip a dead end in Win98?

Cheers! This will work fine with your the SB100 for sure. I have the same card and have been using it with these drivers for many months now.

I don't know how the SB1070 will fare, but at a guess, this approach probably won't work for any card that doesn't have an EMU10k chip. If you do decide to test this, let us know of your results.

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
OPTi 82C930 review

Reply 26 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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Soulreaper wrote on 2021-01-20, 07:02:

Is this a solution for me to use my sound canvas with my live! card? in windows 98!

I haven't personally tried to connect my SBLive to an external MIDI device (since I don't own one), so my knowledge on the subject is limited.

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
OPTi 82C930 review

Reply 27 of 58, by Soulreaper

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I just tried it no go the sound blaster still just uses mpu 401 emulation. But it did work on my ct4760 it did however introduce the hanging note bug when using the sound canvas in windows which was not there before.

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Reply 28 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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Phil gave a quick shoutout to this guide in his latest video. He also said that he might make another one where he goes over the entire process in more detail.

Phil, if you're reading this, it would be an honor to have the guide featured on your channel! Especially since your videos are the main reason I got back into retro PC hardware. Cheers! 😁

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
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Reply 29 of 58, by khyypio

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Nice !This is an extremely intriguing thread, because I have SB0100 and I simply don´t trust the Live! installation CD. I just use the necessary vxd´s to ensure that everything runs stable and they´re perfect if I just play Windows games, but it seems that I can´t install the DOS drivers without installing Audio HQ before that. I did this once before and it forced wmd´s on my PC and fucked everything up. I had to do a clean install. I´d love to try this method but is DirectX 9 necessary? I´m asking this because I have a DX8 card (GF4 Ti4200) and I´ve been told that it is recommended to stick with a DirectX that´s period-correct with my GPU...

Reply 30 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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khyypio wrote on 2021-01-24, 17:16:

I´d love to try this method but is DirectX 9 necessary? I´m asking this because I have a DX8 card (GF4 Ti4200) and I´ve been told that it is recommended to stick with a DirectX that´s period-correct with my GPU...

I'm using DirectX 9 mainly because that's what ships on the Audigy2 ZS driver installation CD. Not sure if the VxD drivers actually use DX9 functionality or not, but I would rather err on the side of caution.

That said, I also have a GeForce4 Ti4200 and haven't noticed any DX9 related issues with it. Depending on which driver version you use, DX9 might actually be the period correct choice. For example, Nvidia driver version 45.23 was released in July of 2003. By that time, DX9 was already out.

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
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Reply 31 of 58, by khyypio

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2021-01-24, 17:37:
khyypio wrote on 2021-01-24, 17:16:

I´d love to try this method but is DirectX 9 necessary? I´m asking this because I have a DX8 card (GF4 Ti4200) and I´ve been told that it is recommended to stick with a DirectX that´s period-correct with my GPU...

I'm using DirectX 9 mainly because that's what ships on the Audigy2 ZS driver installation CD. Not sure if the VxD drivers actually use DX9 functionality or not, but I would rather err on the side of caution.

That said, I also have a GeForce4 Ti4200 and haven't noticed any DX9 related issues with it. Depending on which driver version you use, DX9 might actually be the period correct choice. For example, Nvidia driver version 45.23 was released in July of 2003. By that time, DX9 was already out.

Huh... well, those are the drivers I´m using so guess I might just go with DX9 😁 I wonder how this driver configuration would go with Audigy SB0090?

Reply 32 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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khyypio wrote on 2021-01-24, 17:53:

I wonder how this driver configuration would go with Audigy SB0090?

It might work, but I have never tested that.

Note that the stock drivers for the SB0090 already support using soundfonts for General MIDI music in DOS games. Phil showcases that in this video.

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
OPTi 82C930 review

Reply 33 of 58, by Gopher666

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Ok finally I had a chance to test this and come to thank for the solution. The Audigy2 driver works like a charm. Both DOS games and Windows games are working with my SB0100.

The only issue I have sometimes that after boot the VxD part (windows part) of the driver malfunctioning eg: any apps like basic windows sounds, winamp, diablo2, half life which would use the windows driver stucks in forever either don't open or hangs on 100% while the DOS games always work.

However this can be some crap going on with my specific hardware and anyway win9X was just like that back in the days you need to reboot it all the time, reboot solves everything 😁

Reply 34 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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Gopher666 wrote on 2021-01-28, 16:43:

The only issue I have sometimes that after boot the VxD part (windows part) of the driver malfunctioning eg: any apps like basic windows sounds, winamp, diablo2, half life which would use the windows driver stucks in forever either don't open or hangs on 100% while the DOS games always work.

It's possible that something went wrong with the installation process on your system. As noted before, it is highly recommended to do a clean install of Win98SE before following the steps described in this guide.

For reference, I had no issues with playing EAX games on my SB0100 using these drivers. Specifically, I recently replayed Diablo II from start to finish and EAX worked perfectly.

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
OPTi 82C930 review

Reply 35 of 58, by khyypio

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2021-01-24, 18:27:
khyypio wrote on 2021-01-24, 17:53:

I wonder how this driver configuration would go with Audigy SB0090?

It might work, but I have never tested that.

Note that the stock drivers for the SB0090 already support using soundfonts for General MIDI music in DOS games. Phil showcases that in this video.

Yes, that video is the reason why I´m considering Audigy in the first place 😁 Anyway, I´ve been testing your method for a few days and it really works great, actually made me fall in love with DOS gaming again! 😁 So far, I haven´t come across any problems.

Reply 36 of 58, by khyypio

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My beloved SB0100 died yesterday evening, may its soul rest in peace.

Now, I don´t know if it´s related to this method because these drivers actually worked very well with it and it seems odd that they would just kill it all of a sudden. Although, I did try install a network card on my machine and it gave me a really hard time and after that my sound card just went quiet and the system couldn´t find it anymore. Today I did a clean install and despite of that my SB0100 didn´t come live (!, pun lolololol) anymore.

This would indicate that this method isn´t to be blamed but I thought I should let you know, just in case.

Reply 37 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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It's unlikely that the drivers could cause a hardware failure. Probably just an unfortunate coincidence.

For what it's worth, I've been using them on my own SB0100 for almost a year now and had no issues.

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
OPTi 82C930 review

Reply 38 of 58, by khyypio

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2021-02-02, 10:57:

It's unlikely that the drivers could cause a hardware failure. Probably just an unfortunate coincidence.

For what it's worth, I've been using them on my own SB0100 for almost a year now and had no issues.

Very possible. Maybe they conflict with my network drivers...

Reply 39 of 58, by Joseph_Joestar

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Since I have recently acquired a Roland SC-155 I have added some recordings for comparison with the SBLive:

Sound Blaster Live + Patch93's SC-55 soundfont

vs.

Roland Sound Canvas SC-155

Enjoy!

Using Audigy drivers with a Sound Blaster Live
Installing DOS drivers on an Audigy2 ZS
OPL3 vs. ESFM vs. CQM vs. SBLive
OPTi 82C930 review