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First post, by Chadti99

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Where might I find some info around jumper settings for this board? Some but not all are printed on the pcb.

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Reply 1 of 12, by Pierre32

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I don't have the answer but might be able to give you some helpful leads. I've recently been down this road with a similar ES688 card, and worked out what I could through trial and error. My partial documentation for the card is in a PDF attached to the first post here: No-name ES688F card: Time to ditch it?

Your card has a lot more jumpers than mine. But I would bet that for basic address setup, the jumper bank to the right of the ESS chip is probably similar. Other ESS cards on TH99 might provide clues to jumper functions: http://www.uncreativelabs.de/th99/i/P-R/50556.htm

Your card seems to be a visual match to the "ESS MF-1115", of which there are numerous examples on ebay, and this site here: http://www.pcang.com/ess_688.htm

@Vipersan mentions one in his build here: Re: A new covid lockdown project - help if you can

Reply 4 of 12, by mkarcher

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The CD-ROM jumpers on that card are undocumented, the audio jumpers are documented just fine. I happen to have analyzed a copy of that card, and found out the following stuff. The big "ASP" chip seems to be a custom gate array for CD-ROM decoding and ISA bus adaption.

JP6: ESS688 pin 9 - the only data sheet I have claims "NC". Possibly some factory test jumper.

JP11: Open = SB2.11 emulation, Closed = SB Pro emulation

JP16/17 select the source for the IDE IOR/IOW lines: 1-2 = directly from ISA; 2-3 taken from the ASP chip
JP18/JP19: select non-IDE CD-ROM base address.

300: JP18 left, JP19 bottom
310: JP18 right, JP19 bottom
320: JP18 left, JP19 top
330: JP18 right, JP19 top

JP20/JP22: select CDROM type

none: JP20 closed, JP22 closed
panasonic: JP20 open, JP22 closed
mitsumy/sony: JP20 different for those modes, JP22 open (undetermined, which one is which)

JP21: closed = IDE base address 1F0, open = IDE base address 170

JP23: non-IDE CD-ROM IRQ (3/4/5/6)
JP24: non-IDE CD-ROM IRQ (9/10/11) [set only one of JP23 or JP24, or none at all]
JP25: non-IDE CD-ROM DACK (1/2/3) [not sound card DACK. Needs to be different from sound card DMA channel]
JP26: non-IDE CD-ROM DRQ (1/2/3) [should match JP25]
JP27: IDE IRQ (1-2 = 15, 2-3 = 14)
JP28: game port enable/disable (open = disabled, closed = enabled)
JP30/JP31/JP32/JP33: unknown purpose, quite likely related to non-IDE CDROM type. JP33 probably closed for panasonic CD; open otherwise.

Reply 6 of 12, by Chadti99

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She’s alive!

Does this card have seperate DMA channels for 8bit and 16bit? Just looking at the sound setup in Duke 3d and realizing I’ve only set one DMA channel on the card.

Which Sound Blaster emulation setting would be best?

Reply 7 of 12, by mkarcher

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Chadti99 wrote on 2020-08-08, 12:18:

She’s alive!

Does this card have seperate DMA channels for 8bit and 16bit? Just looking at the sound setup in Duke 3d and realizing I’ve only set one DMA channel on the card.

Which Sound Blaster emulation setting would be best?

No, this card does not use a 16-bit DMA channel. Creative Labs introduced the usage of 16-bit DMA channels with their SB16 model (which also introduced a 16-bit DAC), while this card is compatible with the predecessor, the SB Pro. Unless the game at hand offers dedicate ESS488 or ESS688 support, the best choice is SB Pro, the next best choice is SB 2.0 (unless you value sample rate over stereo. SB 2.0 goes up to 44kHz mono, whereas SB Pro goes up to 22kHz stereo). The jumper should be set to SB Pro, unless you want to support extremely stubborn software that refuses to work with anything not identifying as SB 2.x.

Reply 8 of 12, by Chadti99

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mkarcher wrote on 2020-08-08, 16:35:
Chadti99 wrote on 2020-08-08, 12:18:

She’s alive!

Does this card have seperate DMA channels for 8bit and 16bit? Just looking at the sound setup in Duke 3d and realizing I’ve only set one DMA channel on the card.

Which Sound Blaster emulation setting would be best?

No, this card does not use a 16-bit DMA channel. Creative Labs introduced the usage of 16-bit DMA channels with their SB16 model (which also introduced a 16-bit DAC), while this card is compatible with the predecessor, the SB Pro. Unless the game at hand offers dedicate ESS488 or ESS688 support, the best choice is SB Pro, the next best choice is SB 2.0 (unless you value sample rate over stereo. SB 2.0 goes up to 44kHz mono, whereas SB Pro goes up to 22kHz stereo). The jumper should be set to SB Pro, unless you want to support extremely stubborn software that refuses to work with anything not identifying as SB 2.x.

Got it, thanks for the help everyone, Duke 3D sounds just the way I remember! FM FTW!

Reply 9 of 12, by GuillermoXT

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I got this card recently too but no matter what i try....i can´t get a HDD as master and a Mitsumi 4x IDE as slave running. I also use the XTIDE Bios and it only recognizes port 170h.

My Retrosystems:
PIII on GA-6BA running Win98SE
AMD K6 233 on GA-586HX with Win95
Tandon 286-8MHZ Running DOS 6.22 on XTIDE-CF
M326 486DLC + 4c87dlc (Dos+Win3.11)
ECS UM4980 AMD DX2 80 5V (Dos & Win3.11)

Reply 11 of 12, by led178

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GuillermoXT wrote on 2021-07-12, 14:17:

I got this card recently too but no matter what i try....i can´t get a HDD as master and a Mitsumi 4x IDE as slave running. I also use the XTIDE Bios and it only recognizes port 170h.

Have you been able to use XTIDE Bios with boards other than XTIDE and prime2?

Reply 12 of 12, by GuillermoXT

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led178 wrote on 2023-02-01, 22:23:
GuillermoXT wrote on 2021-07-12, 14:17:

I got this card recently too but no matter what i try....i can´t get a HDD as master and a Mitsumi 4x IDE as slave running. I also use the XTIDE Bios and it only recognizes port 170h.

Have you been able to use XTIDE Bios with boards other than XTIDE and prime2?

I am using the Xtide card (Sergej Kieselev) on it's own and for the mitsumi the IDE port from the CT2940 using Unisound nowadays.

My Retrosystems:
PIII on GA-6BA running Win98SE
AMD K6 233 on GA-586HX with Win95
Tandon 286-8MHZ Running DOS 6.22 on XTIDE-CF
M326 486DLC + 4c87dlc (Dos+Win3.11)
ECS UM4980 AMD DX2 80 5V (Dos & Win3.11)