Re: Tyrian: Roland SC55 vs Yamaha MU80

listening to sc-55 here, the sound from the emulator is very different.

thinking here of the tyrian asteroid soundtrack.

Did you reset the emulator first? Did you try both gm and gs reset modes? Also, are you using my midi_processing library to convert the loudness tracks to midi? (My library uses a novel conversion based on adplug and also does one thing the game only does for fm: portamento)

kode54 wrote on 2024-04-05, 00:55:

Did you reset the emulator first? Did you try both gm and gs reset modes? Also, are you using my midi_processing library to convert the loudness tracks to midi? (My library uses a novel conversion based on adplug and also does one thing the game only does for fm: portamento)

I did, both resets as well. But, I tried the same midi with all my soundfonts. And the same difference is there. Even tried the demo in dosbox, same differens, compared to the recording.

Will do a recording. After this weekend.

But I think I lack some skill to identify the issue.

Karmeck wrote on 2024-04-05, 18:52:

I did, both resets as well. But, I tried the same midi with all my soundfonts. And the same difference is there. Even tried the […]
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kode54 wrote on 2024-04-05, 00:55:

Did you reset the emulator first? Did you try both gm and gs reset modes? Also, are you using my midi_processing library to convert the loudness tracks to midi? (My library uses a novel conversion based on adplug and also does one thing the game only does for fm: portamento)

I did, both resets as well. But, I tried the same midi with all my soundfonts. And the same difference is there. Even tried the demo in dosbox, same differens, compared to the recording.

Will do a recording. After this weekend.

But I think I lack some skill to identify the issue.

Perhaps there's some SysEx bug in NukedSC that makes Asteroid dance sound weird because I had the same issue.
UPD: It was a version with messed up instruments.

Karmeck wrote on 2024-04-05, 18:52:

I did, both resets as well. But, I tried the same midi with all my soundfonts. And the same difference is there. Even tried the demo in dosbox, same differens, compared to the recording.

Will do a recording. After this weekend.

But I think I lack some skill to identify the issue.

Dude, you downloaded the wrong version of the Asteroid Dance!

Downloaded where? I can share the original .lds files, and my midi processing library and associated players can play them with their embedded GM mappings. Though you will need to send a reset to the midi device when done, since it leaves all channels with a full octave as the range for the pitch wheel instead of the default two semitones.

EmperorGrieferus wrote on 2024-04-07, 00:15:

Karmeck wrote on 2024-04-05, 18:52:

I did, both resets as well. But, I tried the same midi with all my soundfonts. And the same difference is there. Even tried the demo in dosbox, same differens, compared to the recording.

Will do a recording. After this weekend.

But I think I lack some skill to identify the issue.

Dude, you downloaded the wrong version of the Asteroid Dance!

I did a GS reset (q, hold u, q, release u, w)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKZUyvwGkmQ

attached a recoding as there is clear differences in the beginning.

Try these?

https://f.losno.co/tyrian_soundtrack.7z

kode54 wrote on 2024-04-07, 08:52:

Try these?

https://f.losno.co/tyrian_soundtrack.7z

EmperorGrieferus was correct. I had the wrong file.

I tried to test EmuSC but it failed to load control ROM. Control ROM version is 1.21. Maybe I should use another version?

EmperorGrieferus wrote on 2024-04-07, 23:28:

I tried to test EmuSC but it failed to load control ROM. Control ROM version is 1.21. Maybe I should use another version?

1.21 works for me. I had emusc crash on me, had to rename one of the rom files so I could change some settings. Like audio to win32.

Karmeck wrote on 2024-04-08, 11:57:

EmperorGrieferus wrote on 2024-04-07, 23:28:

I tried to test EmuSC but it failed to load control ROM. Control ROM version is 1.21. Maybe I should use another version?

1.21 works for me. I had emusc crash on me, had to rename one of the rom files so I could change some settings. Like audio to win32.

Already fixed the issue. Though, EmuSC's not worth it right now.