Setting PLG to channel 10 makes the PLG's bank available. You still have to select a kit to use. On the main screen first scroll over to Part 10. Then push the SELECT button (usually twice as the AD inputs come before PLGs) then you will notice the kit has changed to the corresponding PLG kit (Live Room A is default). From here you can spin the wheel to go through all the kits.

I will try this when I get home from work. I watched all your videos on it and I'm like, "what am I doing wrong???"

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-15, 01:28:

I will try this when I get home from work. I watched all your videos on it and I'm like, "what am I doing wrong???"

This video is meant for MSX owners, but I demonstrate how to use PLG by SysEx codes. May also be useful for custom projects.
https://youtu.be/xZKsuRtTHQw

Awesome. I will take a look at the video when I can. I tried for a brief moment to work on it but I did not see the PLG DR card when scrolling on the wheel after hitting "select"

I did a factory reset, then init xg then drum. Went to util to select the DR then scrolled to 10. Exited, to main menu and scrolled to glocken which is 10 on mine and hit select, but then I do not see Live A.

Again I'll check the video later but I am starting to wonder if something is up.

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-15, 12:43:

Awesome. I will take a look at the video when I can. I tried for a brief moment to work on it but I did not see the PLG DR card when scrolling on the wheel after hitting "select"

I did a factory reset, then init xg then drum. Went to util to select the DR then scrolled to 10. Exited, to main menu and scrolled to glocken which is 10 on mine and hit select, but then I do not see Live A.

Again I'll check the video later but I am starting to wonder if something is up.

Here, try this MIDI file:

Awesome. Will definitely try it out. Hopefully that helps.

Going to look out for that software you have to on YAJ or something and try to import it.

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-15, 13:04:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-15, 12:43:

Awesome. I will take a look at the video when I can. I tried for a brief moment to work on it but I did not see the PLG DR card when scrolling on the wheel after hitting "select"

I did a factory reset, then init xg then drum. Went to util to select the DR then scrolled to 10. Exited, to main menu and scrolled to glocken which is 10 on mine and hit select, but then I do not see Live A.

Again I'll check the video later but I am starting to wonder if something is up.

Here, try this MIDI file: DS00ROCK.zip

The MIDI file demo did work! So I know the PLG card works. I just need to figure out how to actually use it with the games I want to try.

I might shoot some video of what I am seeing and unlist it but link it here. Maybe see what I am doing wrong?

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-16, 07:59:

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-15, 13:04:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-15, 12:43:

Awesome. I will take a look at the video when I can. I tried for a brief moment to work on it but I did not see the PLG DR card when scrolling on the wheel after hitting "select"

I did a factory reset, then init xg then drum. Went to util to select the DR then scrolled to 10. Exited, to main menu and scrolled to glocken which is 10 on mine and hit select, but then I do not see Live A.

Again I'll check the video later but I am starting to wonder if something is up.

Here, try this MIDI file: DS00ROCK.zip

The MIDI file demo did work! So I know the PLG card works. I just need to figure out how to actually use it with the games I want to try.

I might shoot some video of what I am seeing and unlist it but link it here. Maybe see what I am doing wrong?

That will most certainly help. 😀

Okay, I did up a quick video. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Thank you for your help again.

https://youtu.be/P6zI0dDKP18

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-24, 11:08:

Okay, I did up a quick video. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Thank you for your help again.

https://youtu.be/P6zI0dDKP18

Thats the wrong select button. You need to push the circle shaped SELECT button next to the Audition button. It switches the play device for the selected channel. Default is MU, second is AD inputs, after that it goes through PLGs.

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:34:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-24, 11:08:

Okay, I did up a quick video. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Thank you for your help again.

https://youtu.be/P6zI0dDKP18

Thats the wrong select button. You need to push the circle shaped SELECT button next to the Audition button. It switches the play device for the selected channel. Default is MU, second is AD inputs, after that it goes through PLGs.

All I have is Voice when I push Select. Voice all the way through 128.

https://youtu.be/xTNvZHOnQSc

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:45:

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:34:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-24, 11:08:

Okay, I did up a quick video. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Thank you for your help again.

https://youtu.be/P6zI0dDKP18

Thats the wrong select button. You need to push the circle shaped SELECT button next to the Audition button. It switches the play device for the selected channel. Default is MU, second is AD inputs, after that it goes through PLGs.

All I have is Voice when I push Select. Voice all the way through 128.

https://youtu.be/xTNvZHOnQSc

Voice refers to the AD inputs. The PLG isn't appearing because you have to move to channel 10 first (as you assigned it to channel 10 in the PLG menu.) In the above video, you are on channel 14, then 15, and in the first video it appears you are on channel 06.

If you are still confused I'll make a quick vid tonight.

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:58:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:45:

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:34:

Thats the wrong select button. You need to push the circle shaped SELECT button next to the Audition button. It switches the play device for the selected channel. Default is MU, second is AD inputs, after that it goes through PLGs.

All I have is Voice when I push Select. Voice all the way through 128.

https://youtu.be/xTNvZHOnQSc

Voice refers to the AD inputs. The PLG isn't appearing because you have to move to channel 10 first (as you assigned it to channel 10 in the PLG menu.) In the above video, you are on channel 14, then 15, and in the first video it appears you are on channel 06.

If you are still confused I'll make a quick vid tonight.

I am very confused. Sorry, I am just not grasping where I am going wrong looking the options and trying to navigate the wheel, etc. I am not seeing why I am on channel 14 and then 6 and where to see this.

A quick video would be super helpful. I tried watching your MSX one but I was not seeing what I needed to navigate the menus. Sorry again.

I think XGEditor will solve this problem easily, but I can't seem to find the PLG150-DR plugin or voice definition files anywhere; Superdeadite, do you have the PLG150-DR CD?

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-25, 04:58:

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:58:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:45:

All I have is Voice when I push Select. Voice all the way through 128.

https://youtu.be/xTNvZHOnQSc

Voice refers to the AD inputs. The PLG isn't appearing because you have to move to channel 10 first (as you assigned it to channel 10 in the PLG menu.) In the above video, you are on channel 14, then 15, and in the first video it appears you are on channel 06.

If you are still confused I'll make a quick vid tonight.

I am very confused. Sorry, I am just not grasping where I am going wrong looking the options and trying to navigate the wheel, etc. I am not seeing why I am on channel 14 and then 6 and where to see this.

A quick video would be super helpful. I tried watching your MSX one but I was not seeing what I needed to navigate the menus. Sorry again.

And done:
https://youtu.be/HLbCkZEGv6A

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-16, 09:13:

The MIDI file demo did work! So I know the PLG card works. I just need to figure out how to actually use it with the games I want to try.

It doesn't work at all with games and the few XG-compliant games were made for the older, low-end XG Level-1 synths that have no expansion boards, specifically the MU50/DB50 and the S-YXG50 soft-synth. The PLG boards are performance-grade MIDI modules within a studio MIDI module and can't be accessed by software that wasn't designed or intended to work with them. The best you can do is take any game MIDI files (GM) and tweak them to work with the XG soundset and whatever PLG soundset you have available.

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2022-07-25, 15:03:

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-16, 09:13:

The MIDI file demo did work! So I know the PLG card works. I just need to figure out how to actually use it with the games I want to try.

It doesn't work at all with games and the few XG-compliant games were made for the older, low-end XG Level-1 synths that have no expansion boards, specifically the MU50/DB50 and the S-YXG50 soft-synth. The PLG boards are performance-grade MIDI modules within a studio MIDI module and can't be accessed by software that wasn't designed or intended to work with them. The best you can do is take any game MIDI files (GM) and tweak them to work with the XG soundset and whatever PLG soundset you have available.

Depends on the PLG, game, hardware and determination you have:

PLG150-DR:
Sonic the Hedgehog (MS) https://youtu.be/ZHZUP16OLiE
Chex Quest: https://youtu.be/79K04ZqoouI?t=190

PLG150-AN:
Gradius (MSX) https://youtu.be/9RJl9aebBM4
Dungeon Hunter (MSX) https://youtu.be/UcqYe48eqj8

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-25, 13:39:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-25, 04:58:

SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:58:

Voice refers to the AD inputs. The PLG isn't appearing because you have to move to channel 10 first (as you assigned it to channel 10 in the PLG menu.) In the above video, you are on channel 14, then 15, and in the first video it appears you are on channel 06.

If you are still confused I'll make a quick vid tonight.

I am very confused. Sorry, I am just not grasping where I am going wrong looking the options and trying to navigate the wheel, etc. I am not seeing why I am on channel 14 and then 6 and where to see this.

A quick video would be super helpful. I tried watching your MSX one but I was not seeing what I needed to navigate the menus. Sorry again.

And done:
https://youtu.be/HLbCkZEGv6A

OMG IT WORKS!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! This was exactly the tutorial I needed to understand what I was looking at and how things acts after resets, instruments, etc. And understanding "Parts" helps to go along ways.

Are there any other PLG modules you would recommend? I like collecting this stuff even if it has very little or limited gaming use, and I would like to get a keyboard someday to plug all my modules into and mess around with music.

Also I like the idea of maxing out my MU2000EX.

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-26, 10:05:

OMG IT WORKS!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! This was exactly the tutorial I needed to understand what I was looking at and […]
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SuperDeadite wrote on 2022-07-25, 13:39:

Vanessaira wrote on 2022-07-25, 04:58:

I am very confused. Sorry, I am just not grasping where I am going wrong looking the options and trying to navigate the wheel, etc. I am not seeing why I am on channel 14 and then 6 and where to see this.

A quick video would be super helpful. I tried watching your MSX one but I was not seeing what I needed to navigate the menus. Sorry again.

And done:
https://youtu.be/HLbCkZEGv6A

OMG IT WORKS!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! This was exactly the tutorial I needed to understand what I was looking at and how things acts after resets, instruments, etc. And understanding "Parts" helps to go along ways.

Are there any other PLG modules you would recommend? I like collecting this stuff even if it has very little or limited gaming use, and I would like to get a keyboard someday to plug all my modules into and mess around with music.

Also I like the idea of maxing out my MU2000EX.

Depends on your tastes, I adore analog sounds so I have an AN. I also have SG... very bizzare device like nothing else. Fun toy if you can get one cheap. (Mine was 40 bucks 🤣). I want to buy a DX but they are the most expensive by far.

Also, I uploaded all the PLG editors and demo midis that I have in another thread the other day by the way.