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Can't use ESS ISA card in windows with Audigy installed too?

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First post, by 9646gt

Posted on 2023-02-07, 16:41

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I have an Audigy 1 installs via PCI along with my ESS 1869 and Dream Blaster x2GS midi device on it. In Windows 98SE when playing a DOS game, audio seems to be routed through the Audigy card. I tried setting the ESS and it's MIDI port to the preferred deice in Multimedia section of control panel and even "use only preferred device" option is ticked and it still happens using IRQ5 DMA1 I/O 220 of my ESS card! I tried completely disabling the Audigy in device manager and I lose DOS sound but Windows sounds seem fine if I remember correctly. How can I completely get rid of the emulation that's occurring?

Reply 1 of 8, by Shponglefan

Posted on 2023-02-07, 17:32

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What motherboard are you using?

There are certain chipsets (e.g. nVidia's nForce) that don't allow proper sound card compatibility with DOS games under Windows 98.

If it's not a motherboard chipset limitation, then I would then try fully removing and uninstalling the Audigy and testing only the ESS-based card.

Also confirm that the ESS-based card is in fact functional, either testing under pure DOS (e.g. DOS 6.22) and/or in another system.

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Reply 2 of 8, by ptr1ck

Posted on 2023-02-07, 17:38

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I just boot into DOS when I want to use my ESS exclusively. In Windows, I have my Audigy 2, as preferred device, running pass through my ESS with a jumper cable. I don't see any reason to run the ESS in Windows, but can if I want.

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Reply 3 of 8, by Ydee

Posted on 2023-02-08, 09:49

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Shponglefan wrote on 2023-02-07, 17:32:

There are certain chipsets (e.g. nVidia's nForce) that don't allow proper sound card compatibility with DOS games under Windows 98.

That's true, but I don't think any of the nForce chipset boards have ever had an ISA slot.

Reply 4 of 8, by 9646gt

Posted on 2023-02-08, 13:06

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I ended up never getting it sorted and just removed the Audigy card. It's a 440BX board so I figure it should have worked. The Audigy drivers after making several tweaks to resources and such to try and get it working in a selective manner ended up crashing explorer.exe like crazy so I just removed the card. On a side note there are NO uninstall options for any of the Creative software that I can find...ugh!!!

Reply 5 of 8, by ptr1ck

Posted on 2023-02-08, 13:16

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For what it's worth, my setup is using Windows ME.

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Reply 6 of 8, by 9646gt

Posted on 2023-02-08, 13:29

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ptr1ck wrote on 2023-02-08, 13:16:

For what it's worth, my setup is using Windows ME.

It weird. It's like there was a DOS compatibility layer or something that just could not be disabled.

Reply 7 of 8, by Gmlb256

Posted on 2023-02-08, 13:30

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9646gt wrote on 2023-02-08, 13:06:

I ended up never getting it sorted and just removed the Audigy card. It's a 440BX board so I figure it should have worked. The Audigy drivers after making several tweaks to resources and such to try and get it working in a selective manner ended up crashing explorer.exe like crazy so I just removed the card.

If the VxD driver was installed, there should be a separate driver for the SB16 emulation in the Device Manager and this can be safely disabled.

On a side note there are NO uninstall options for any of the Creative software that I can find...ugh!!!

Did you look in the "Add/Remove Programs"? I was able to uninstall any Creative software in the "Add/Remove Programs" setting.

Reply 8 of 8, by 9646gt

Posted on 2023-02-08, 14:24

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2023-02-08, 13:30:
If the VxD driver was installed, there should be a separate driver for the SB16 emulation in the Device Manager and this can be […]
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9646gt wrote on 2023-02-08, 13:06:

I ended up never getting it sorted and just removed the Audigy card. It's a 440BX board so I figure it should have worked. The Audigy drivers after making several tweaks to resources and such to try and get it working in a selective manner ended up crashing explorer.exe like crazy so I just removed the card.

If the VxD driver was installed, there should be a separate driver for the SB16 emulation in the Device Manager and this can be safely disabled.

On a side note there are NO uninstall options for any of the Creative software that I can find...ugh!!!

Did you look in the "Add/Remove Programs"? I was able to uninstall any Creative software in the "Add/Remove Programs" setting.

I did...There aren't any entries created I guess when using the Audigy 1 CD from the XP era for some reason.

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