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First post, by Intel486dx33

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Hi Guys,
What ISA Sound cards do you think are best to pair with the “Dream Blaster X2 GS” MIDI module ?

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Reply 1 of 13, by Shponglefan

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Depends on the intended features and goals for the particular build.

On my 486 or Pentium build, I typically pair any wavetable daughtercards with a Roland MPU-401AT midi interface. I leave other audio duties to separate sound cards.

Otherwise, any sound card that doesn't have MIDI bugs would likely suffice.

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Reply 2 of 13, by Intel486dx33

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Well, I am NOT familiar with what sound devices need to be used for which games and music recordings ?
Someone should make a list of which sound and video components to use for each game.

Reply 3 of 13, by Shponglefan

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2023-06-19, 14:02:

Well, I am NOT familiar with what sound devices need to be used for which games and music recordings ?
Someone should make a list of which sound and video components to use for each game.

The DreamBlaster is General Midi compatible, so any game that supports General MIDI will be able to use it.

A list of GM supported games can already be found through sites like MobyGames: https://www.mobygames.com/attributes/attribute/47/

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Reply 4 of 13, by Intel486dx33

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Shponglefan wrote on 2023-06-19, 15:01:
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2023-06-19, 14:02:

Well, I am NOT familiar with what sound devices need to be used for which games and music recordings ?
Someone should make a list of which sound and video components to use for each game.

The DreamBlaster is General Midi compatible, so any game that supports General MIDI will be able to use it.

A list of GM supported games can already be found through sites like MobyGames: https://www.mobygames.com/attributes/attribute/47/

Thats like saying All Gasoline work equally on all Cars. Some cars ( games ) require specific MIDI audio components and sound cards
To best be heard as the composers of the Music intended.

Reply 5 of 13, by Shponglefan

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2023-06-19, 15:10:

Thats like saying All Gasoline work equally on all Cars. Some cars ( games ) require specific MIDI audio components and sound cards
To best be heard as the composers of the Music intended.

Any music composed to the General MIDI specification should work on any General MIDI device. That's the whole point of the GM standard.

If you're talking about things being heard as the composers intended, then you're into determining which GM device was likely used for composing the music originally. Most commonly that would be the Roland Sound Canvas SC-55.

Modules like the Dreamblaster X2 GS have a Roland sound set which is designed to be similar to the original Sound Canvas, and should sound good for most games using GM music.

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Reply 6 of 13, by Trashbytes

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Shponglefan wrote on 2023-06-19, 15:15:
Any music composed to the General MIDI specification should work on any General MIDI device. That's the whole point of the GM st […]
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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2023-06-19, 15:10:

Thats like saying All Gasoline work equally on all Cars. Some cars ( games ) require specific MIDI audio components and sound cards
To best be heard as the composers of the Music intended.

Any music composed to the General MIDI specification should work on any General MIDI device. That's the whole point of the GM standard.

If you're talking about things being heard as the composers intended, then you're into determining which GM device was likely used for composing the music in the first. Most commonly that would be the Roland Sound Canvas SC-55.

Modules like the Dreamblaster X2 GS have a Roland sound set which is designed to be similar to the original Sound Canvas, and should sound good for most games using GM music.

the bot could also be talking about the MT-32 but then we are talking about even older games.

Reply 7 of 13, by Shponglefan

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True, support for MT-32 is different than General MIDI.

Generally when it comes to MIDI music in games there are only a few standards one really needs to worry about:

Roland MT-32 and MT-32 compatible devices like the CM-32L, CM-64, CM-500
General MIDI (typically best with Roland sound sets such an original SC-55)
Yamaha XG (used by a few PC games like Final Fantasy 7)

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Reply 8 of 13, by MadMac_5

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If you don't mind waiting for one to pop up, an Orpheus II LT would be the ideal ISA card to pair with the Dreamblaster, since it seems to have excellent compatibility and audio quality along with a real OPL3. I pair my X2GS with a Sound Blaster 16 that I purchased in 2020 and it works fairly well aside from the occasional hitches in TIE Fighter. One could also use an AWE 64 with a Chill and Phil adapter, but that would leave the X2GS dangling behind the sound card. I'm looking to try that out myself soon, I just need to get around to ordering one along with a joystick Y-splitter so I can still use my joystick while using the X2GS.

Reply 9 of 13, by badmojo

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2023-06-19, 14:02:

Someone should make a list of which sound and video components to use for each game.

The way you ask the same generic questions over and over again suggest that you don't read or remember anything, so a list ain't going to help you.

You've asked this question multiple times in the past for example.

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Reply 10 of 13, by TheMobRules

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badmojo wrote on 2023-06-19, 21:24:

The way you ask the same generic questions over and over again suggest that you don't read or remember anything, so a list ain't going to help you.

Give it a few years, right now it remembers around 10-20 messages before losing track of the conversation, but at the pace AI tech is advancing it will soon overcome this limitation 😎

Reply 11 of 13, by Intel486dx33

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Most DOS Games only read as the requirements to be a x86 computer with sound card, SVGA , and maybe a CDROM too.
But to actually hear and see and play the game as the creators intended you need some good specific equipment and speakers.

Reply 12 of 13, by JayAlien

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2023-06-19, 22:19:

Most DOS Games only read as the requirements to be a x86 computer with sound card, SVGA , and maybe a CDROM too.

Oh, really? Tell me more.

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