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Reply 20 of 29, by dr.zeissler

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This 233MMX can play MPEG1 just fine, no wonder because of the rainbow-runner, but 233MMZ is too slow for amithlon.
The FSC-Scovery-212 with K6-2/350 and PCI mystique is much faster (CPU wise) so amithlon runs at (barely) accepatable speed.

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Reply 21 of 29, by weedeewee

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dr.zeissler wrote on 2024-01-11, 18:37:
weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-11, 16:52:
Regarding that 26?pin port... does anyone have a link to the pinout ? […]
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Regarding that 26?pin port... does anyone have a link to the pinout ?

I recently came across a siemens D1025 which had a rainbow runner card rattling in the case, and another PCI card nearby with a tuner and a 26 pin D-connector attached via an IDC connector. Luckily on top of this all was a 26 pin D-connector with a bunch of connectors and also a scart connector attached. I could measure this and post the pinout. I'm curious though if anyone else has a link to compare it to.

The d1025 mainboard is working, after adding the electrolytics back on since someone removed them which caused the board to boot and then crash.
I haven't tested the rainbow card nor the pci tuner card yet.
The thing that was missing from this all was the ISA/PCI riser that the mainboard uses. slightly frustrating.

something like this? (FSC-C5 (233mmx) D1025 onboard mystique 2MB + Rainbow-Runner on the mainboard.

yes, that seems to be the mainboard, riser, rainbow runner and a bunch of other cards in the photo you've shown.

All the electrolytics had been removed on the board I have. I only placed back 4 in total and the board is running, though I'll have to add a few more to be safe.
I'll add a photo of the pci card with cabling after I take a photo of them. Fairly certain it connects to the rainbow runner.

but that wasn't the point of my comment.

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Reply 22 of 29, by jtchip

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The connector next to the VGA DE-15 port depends on the model. On the Millenium, this is a DA-26 Media XL port, pinout documented on page 30 of the manual.
On the Millenium II and Mystique, this is a DA-15 Rainbow Runner Studio port, pinout documented on page 21 of the manual.

Reply 23 of 29, by weedeewee

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jtchip wrote on 2024-01-13, 04:50:

The connector next to the VGA DE-15 port depends on the model. On the Millenium, this is a DA-26 Media XL port, pinout documented on page 30 of the manual.
On the Millenium II and Mystique, this is a DA-15 Rainbow Runner Studio port, pinout documented on page 21 of the manual.

Thanks ! Is there any information about the rainbow card connectors? specifically, J2

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Reply 24 of 29, by jtchip

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weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-13, 06:57:

Thanks ! Is there any information about the rainbow card connectors? specifically, J2

I assume you mean the Mystique as that's what I happen to have and it has a 2x8-pin J2 header just next to the DA-15 Rainbow Runner port. I don't know anything more than what's in the manual but given its location I assume it carries the same signals as the DA-15 connector, just use a multimeter to confirm. Half of the pins are ground so that's easy to check.

Reply 25 of 29, by weedeewee

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jtchip wrote on 2024-01-13, 19:19:
weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-13, 06:57:

Thanks ! Is there any information about the rainbow card connectors? specifically, J2

I assume you mean the Mystique as that's what I happen to have and it has a 2x8-pin J2 header just next to the DA-15 Rainbow Runner port. I don't know anything more than what's in the manual but given its location I assume it carries the same signals as the DA-15 connector, just use a multimeter to confirm. Half of the pins are ground so that's easy to check.

No, J2 on the rainbow runner.
https://i.postimg.cc/QXJR6CLj/Matrox-Mystique … nbow-Runner.jpg
J2 on the mystique connects with J3 on the rainbow.
J2 on the rainbow might be carrying the same signals, I'll have to do a continuity check.

I measured the D26 connector/cable I have and it in no way matches the matrox one.
Dangit, if only the riser wasn't lost and the harddrive not damaged, but that's for another thread.

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Reply 26 of 29, by jtchip

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weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-13, 19:35:
No, J2 on the rainbow runner. https://i.postimg.cc/QXJR6CLj/Matrox-Mystique … nbow-Runner.jpg J2 on the mystique connects with […]
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No, J2 on the rainbow runner.
https://i.postimg.cc/QXJR6CLj/Matrox-Mystique … nbow-Runner.jpg
J2 on the mystique connects with J3 on the rainbow.
J2 on the rainbow might be carrying the same signals, I'll have to do a continuity check.

No idea, I'm afraid, I no longer have the Rainbow Runner Studio. It seems to have a same 2x8-pins so carrying the same signals would be a reasonable assumption but you'll have to do a continuity check to be sure.

Reply 27 of 29, by weedeewee

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jtchip wrote on 2024-01-13, 19:54:
weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-13, 19:35:
No, J2 on the rainbow runner. https://i.postimg.cc/QXJR6CLj/Matrox-Mystique … nbow-Runner.jpg J2 on the mystique connects with […]
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No, J2 on the rainbow runner.
https://i.postimg.cc/QXJR6CLj/Matrox-Mystique … nbow-Runner.jpg
J2 on the mystique connects with J3 on the rainbow.
J2 on the rainbow might be carrying the same signals, I'll have to do a continuity check.

No idea, I'm afraid, I no longer have the Rainbow Runner Studio. It seems to have a same 2x8-pins so carrying the same signals would be a reasonable assumption but you'll have to do a continuity check to be sure.

Welp, not all are a direct connection between the two.
rainbow runner TV
J3 - J2
1 - ?
2 - 12
5 - 11
6 - ?
9 - ?
10 - ?
13 - ?
15 - no pin

gnd 3 4 7 8 11 12 16 - 1 4 7 8 9 10 13

thanks.

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Reply 28 of 29, by jtchip

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Hmm... there aren't that many signals so it's either a Y and C S-video output, or a set of composite input and outputs. Try connecting it to a composite video input (while playing a video on the Rainbow Runner) and see if you get anything. (I'm not responsible if any equipment breaks 😀 )

Reply 29 of 29, by weedeewee

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At least four of them go to a smd transistor-a-like component, could be double diodes to clip the input signal, considering the designation.
The ground wiring on the tv tuner card ( s26361-1121-v1 gs01) lines up.

Yeah this is all for another thread.

never mind & thanks !

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