Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby The Serpent Rider » 2018-5-04 @ 18:56

the only material damages I can see are the missing SMD component (labeled R143JNB89, but googling this gives me nada, so if anyone can tell me what exactly I need to replace this with I would be grateful

As I've said before - standard 14.318 mhz crystal oscillator.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-5-04 @ 19:47

The Serpent Rider wrote:
the only material damages I can see are the missing SMD component (labeled R143JNB89, but googling this gives me nada, so if anyone can tell me what exactly I need to replace this with I would be grateful

As I've said before - standard 14.318 mhz crystal oscillator.


Thank you I have ordered a dozen :)
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby mzry » 2018-5-06 @ 12:37

Yeah you got there pretty much the best V3 worth owning, hope you bring it to life!
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-5-06 @ 12:47

mzry wrote:Yeah you got there pretty much the best V3 worth owning, hope you bring it to life!


So do I, fingers crossed. I also changed the cooler I ordered for this card to the below:

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The other coller, with the fan on top, was 50mm high, and with the GPU die etc added that 55mm would have blocked off 3 PCI slots. This one is only 45mm high and should block only two slots (one of which is shared with the AGP slot anyhow). With active cooling 183MHz should be achievable :D
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby vvbee » 2018-5-06 @ 17:03

I'd go for a large flat heatsink at the back piping as well as can from whichever components get hot and integrate cpu and gpu cooling with a funnel or two. Though I'd also underclock it and negate much of the need.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby -Maverick- » 2018-5-13 @ 10:02

This reminds me of something similar I did back in the early 2000's.

http://dbzer.net/3dfx/Voodoo_3_3000_PCI_01.jpg
http://dbzer.net/3dfx/Voodoo_3_3000_PCI_02.jpg
http://dbzer.net/3dfx/Voodoo_3_3000_PCI_03.jpg
http://dbzer.net/3dfx/Voodoo_3_3000_PCI_04.jpg

If anyone was around during the glory days of Voodoofiles, you might have stumbled across the forum thread.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-6-11 @ 23:37

Right.. so.. All the components arrived in the mail last week, so the first order of business was to get the crystal oscillater soldered onto the PCB (please let me know whether my assumption that this has no polarity is true or not..)

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Next, I applied a generous amount of thermal paste onto the graphics chip.

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Then I mounted the chipset cooler onto the card..

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And if I may say so, it looks pretty good..

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It covers the adjacent PCI slot and the one underneath, but it should cool pretty effectively. I will definitely try pushing this card to 3500 speeds as soon as I have time to test it in a system. :cool:
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby Fusion » 2018-6-15 @ 04:33

Nah, push it higher then that! :)
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-8-09 @ 17:57

I've run into another problem, this card has one more missing SMD component. I've marked it with red in the attached picture. Can anyone who has access to a working Voodoo 3 3000 tell me what that component is supposed to be? Capacitor? Resistor? Rating? I need to source one and solder it onto the board before trying the card.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby Aideka » 2018-8-09 @ 19:36

appiah4 wrote:I've run into another problem, this card has one more missing SMD component. I've marked it with red in the attached picture. Can anyone who has access to a working Voodoo 3 3000 tell me what that component is supposed to be? Capacitor? Resistor? Rating? I need to source one and solder it onto the board before trying the card.


I do not own such a card, but my guess would be an inductor with the same values as the component L9 on the board.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-8-09 @ 20:09

Aideka wrote:
appiah4 wrote:I've run into another problem, this card has one more missing SMD component. I've marked it with red in the attached picture. Can anyone who has access to a working Voodoo 3 3000 tell me what that component is supposed to be? Capacitor? Resistor? Rating? I need to source one and solder it onto the board before trying the card.


I do not own such a card, but my guess would be an inductor with the same values as the component L9 on the board.


How can I determine the rating of the inductor on L9?
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby SSTV2 » 2018-8-10 @ 14:27

Don't worry too much about it, it's just a part of a LC low pass filter for one of the VGA signals. You can borrow such inductor from any dead video card or motherboard, its parameters are not critical.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-8-10 @ 15:58

I dont really have anything Im willing to scavenge for this.. what would be a likely fitting component here? 0402 I presume? What inductance?
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby SSTV2 » 2018-8-11 @ 19:46

appiah4 wrote: What inductance?

68 or 82 nH should do fine.
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-8-13 @ 05:26

SSTV2 wrote:
appiah4 wrote: What inductance?

68 or 82 nH should do fine.

Many thanks; is it better to go for higher inductance when in doubt as one would for capacitors?
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-9-14 @ 11:07

SSTV2 wrote:
appiah4 wrote: What inductance?

68 or 82 nH should do fine.


My inductors came in, but I made an oops and got 82uH 0805 inductors :(

I can find 47nH 0603 or 150nH 0805 inductors locally, would either of these work?
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby stamasd » 2018-9-14 @ 12:49

I would try the 47nH.
I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby appiah4 » 2018-9-14 @ 13:06

stamasd wrote:I would try the 47nH.


I ordered 50 82nH 0805s from Aliexpress.. another month of waiting before I am finished with this project *le sigh*
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Re: Trash to Treasure side project: Voodoo 3 3000 Restoration

Postby stamasd » 2018-9-14 @ 13:11

While you wait it's still worth trying the 47, can't hurt. 0603 should fit into a 0805 footprint.,
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