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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby Myloch » 2017-12-21 @ 16:33

Obscure powervr only japanese adventure that has never come to light in the end

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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 19:59

So, I got a card with that chip on it:
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AIDA16 gives that info:
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And the Tomb Raider demo:
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Tombpcx2.exe happily gives me a black screen and freezes my computer, can anyone want to hazard a guess at what the card is? :evil:
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby Artex » 2018-1-07 @ 20:08

I would guess an Apocalypse 3Dx or other PCX2 card like the Matrox M3D but it seems too easy.
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 20:15

Definitely neither of those.
The card was made in 1999 by the way, that will only leave you more confused!
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby derSammler » 2018-1-07 @ 20:25

It's a VideoLogic Apocalypse 3D.

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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 20:34

derSammler wrote:It's a VideoLogic Apocalypse 3D.

Drivers attached.

No, sorry, not that one either.
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby derSammler » 2018-1-07 @ 20:37

Then it's a 5D with ESS sound and ET6000 combined. Why don't you show the complete card? I don't quite get it. You seem to know what card it is?!
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 20:42

I have the card, it's the "PowerVR Fun Thread" and I expected someone to know all the cards with PowerVR chips on them, a knowledgeable bunch of people on vogons after all!
I'll give you a few days to rack your brain, unless you really want to see it today...
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby spiroyster » 2018-1-07 @ 20:44

1999 is post pcx2, an pre kyro so neon250?
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby konc » 2018-1-07 @ 20:48

lolo799 wrote:I have the card, it's the "PowerVR Fun Thread" and I expected someone to know all the cards with PowerVR chips on them, a knowledgeable bunch of people on vogons after all!
I'll give you a few days to rack your brain, unless you really want to see it today...


Nah, I can wait a few days without racking anything.
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby vetz » 2018-1-07 @ 21:15

My guess is a PCI Sega Saturn controller card, the IF-SEGA2/PCI from IODATA. My guess why they used the PowerVR controller was to integrate lightgun technology without VGA loop.

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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby Ozzuneoj » 2018-1-07 @ 21:30

vetz wrote:My guess is a PCI Sega Saturn controller card, the IF-SEGA2/PCI from IODATA. My guess why they used the PowerVR controller was to integrate lightgun technology without VGA loop.

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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 21:34

Yes it's that card, the PowerVR chip is only used as a PCI-ISA bridge.
The card is detected as a PCX2 in DOS and Windows, so you can't use it if you already have a PowerVR card in your machine.
No Ram on it, so obviously any game trying to use it crashes.
Large pictures of it at the bottom of https://applause.elfmimi.jp/ifsega/

The prototype card exposed at the IO DATA event had ram chips though:
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby vetz » 2018-1-07 @ 22:00

Impressed there are Windows 7 and 8 drivers for that card!
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby yawetaG » 2018-1-07 @ 22:12

Interesting, I knew about the triangular ISA version and the NEC PC98 C-bus version, but hadn't seen the PCI version yet.
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 22:20

The same person made drivers for Windows 2000 and XP too, available on his page.
There are drivers for Linux and BeOS as well.
And the card is supported by the Allegro library, Mame 0.37, and some other pieces of software.

The official product page mentions that you need to use the ISA version if you have a PowerVR PCX1/2 card installed:
http://www.iodata.jp/products/game/ifsg2pci.htm
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby Myloch » 2018-1-07 @ 22:53

Apart of compulsive collecting purposes, what are the practical possible uses of this card, other than being a coaster for my beer?
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby lolo799 » 2018-1-07 @ 23:14

To use a pair of Saturn controllers to play, which are pretty nice to use.
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby yawetaG » 2018-1-08 @ 07:53

lolo799 wrote:To use a pair of Saturn controllers to play, which are pretty nice to use.


Or any of the other Saturn controllers shown (in the first row?) on the I/O Data product page. Although in the case of the Virtual On Twin Stick, there also exists a dedicated PC version that's basically two joysticks and a gameport split cable in a housing. IIRC, there also exist PC versions of the Arcade sticks, both by Sega and (much better) Hori.

For systems with the appropriate OS and USB ports, I'd recommend using a USB Sega Saturn adapter.
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Re: PowerVR Fun Thread

Postby leileilol » 2018-1-08 @ 19:01

Hm! From the 98-datecoded chip alone I would've assumed a PowerVR SG prototype board.
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