kixs wrote:

I really wonder how EISA performs.

I have not done any benching as yet... still busy making the system mods, so i'll soon be benching too! 😁

Apparently though it is closely comparable with MCA bus in terms of throughput. Transfer rates will obviously be much better than regular old ISA... but still nowhere close to (33 MHz+) VLB.

It happened... not that i'm complaining, but... I found her!

ATI Mach 32... curious to see what she does for NT with a 135MHz RAMDAC.

hmm... shows picture 😉

kixs wrote:

hmm... shows picture 😉

How well... we shall see.

When you bench the card, could you crank up the resolution to 1024x768 and check VGA signal quality as part of the test?

Will you include Windows benches?

vetz wrote:

When you bench the card, could you crank up the resolution to 1024x768 and check VGA signal quality as part of the test?

Will you include Windows benches?

Ohhh yes... it will be getting a right good testing so it will!

I'm glad you asked though... as I have a question too. Windows benchmarks... are you familiar with any... particularly for NT 3.1?

386_junkie wrote:

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It happened... not that i'm complaining, but... I found her!

ATI Mach 32... curious to see what she does for NT with a 135MHz RAMDAC.

Have fun with the (my) card.
I am looking forward to your tests.

Attached you can find pics of the Miro Rainbow Win 4 MB EISA card = Miro Crystal 32 Eisa with 170 MHz RAMDAC.
Unfortunately some broken pins of the 928 Chip had to be fixed because it was not well packed.
But finally it works.

moturimi1 wrote:

Attached you can find the Miro Rainbow Win 4 MB EISA card = Miro Crystal 32 Eisa with 170 MHz RAMDAC.

Thanks for posting the pics... it is some card, 4 MB and the RAMDAC... all on the EISA Bus! 😎

I might have gotten a ISA/EISA 386/486 combo motherboard... not tested yet, so can't really say I'm on the lookout for EISA graphic card 😀

Would be nice to see some real world performance - 386_junkie? 😉

kixs wrote:

I might have gotten a ISA/EISA 386/486 combo motherboard... not tested yet

Would be nice to see some real world performance - 386_junkie? 😉

Which motherboard? Have you any pictures?

Results will be coming soon, but from early function testing... the ATI Mach32 and Matrox S3 805 are front runners.

Has anyone had a chance to try the 2MB Compaq QVision EISA SVGA cards? I once had the 4MB Elsa Winner 2000, and I found it didn't really seem to take advantage of the EISA bus. I seem to remember Qvisions being held in fairly high regard, and the fact that Compaq was in the gang of nine gives them some credibility.

I might have gotten a ISA/EISA 386/486 combo motherboard.

Do these actually exist? I may have seen such a thing with a HiNT chipset, but sadly HiNT doesn't support the full EISA specification.

386_junkie wrote:

kixs wrote:

I might have gotten a ISA/EISA 386/486 combo motherboard... not tested yet

Would be nice to see some real world performance - 386_junkie? 😉

Which motherboard? Have you any pictures?

Results will be coming soon, but from early function testing... the ATI Mach32 and Matrox S3 805 are front runners.

I'll take a picture and post it sometime tonight. It has one EISA slot - well at least it looks like it 😉

I'd like to see how EISA cards compare to ISA and VLB in DOS and Windows. I don't have any EISA VGA cards.

If there's only 1 slot, it's almost certainly OPTi local bus or proprietary expansion bus. If it were HiNT mini-EISA, half the slots would be 32-bit. Generally on real EISA boards all or most of the slots are 32-bit.

I thought about this too. It might not be EISA at all.

It's this board:
http://molka.x86-guide.com/en/collection_dive … pu-no238-1.html

Just tested it and it won't post - no video signal at all. I haven't had the chance to test it when I got it... but I guess it might be in that 10% of components that fail 🙁 Will try again later...

kixs wrote:

It's this board:
http://molka.x86-guide.com/en/collection_dive … pu-no238-1.html

Just tested it and it won't post - no video signal at all. I haven't had the chance to test it when I got it... but I guess it might be in that 10% of components that fail 🙁 Will try again later...

This is the OPTI Local Bus. There are cards with Tseng ET4000AX out there that fit into this slot. On the card you can read "Local Bus".
I had one and thought it was broken because it did not post in an EISA board. Nowadays I know that these only work in the OPTI Locas bus boards.

Anonymous Coward wrote:

Has anyone had a chance to try the 2MB Compaq QVision EISA SVGA cards? I once had the 4MB Elsa Winner 2000, and I found it didn't really seem to take advantage of the EISA bus. I seem to remember Qvisions being held in fairly high regard, and the fact that Compaq was in the gang of nine gives them some credibility.

The Compaq QVision and the later released Compaq Advanced VGA are both in the queue.

Currently bench-marking and logging the results all the EISA graphics cards I have on Compaq's Systempro.

I have eight cards to use: -

Artist XJ1000 (GPX)
ATI Mach32
AIR Aview2E (S3 924)
Generic (S3 911)
ELSA Winner 1000 (S3 928)
Matrox (S3 805)
Compaq Qvision
Compaq Advanced VGA

I'll be using both Dos and Windows benchmark programs; -

DOS
3dBench 1 & 2
PCBench
Doom

Windows NT
Windsock 3.30
Wintune 2.0
Winbench 4
Winbench 9 (95 v1.10)

If anyone has anymore graphics bench-marking programs for DOS let me know thanks. The above Windows benchmark programs are the only one's I can get working on NT... so far.

Afterwards I may look to bench all available ISA cards of similar or same chipset, also on the Systempro. The database may get quite big, though comprehensive enough.

Thanks

I like your project of benching many EISA cards 😀 Will do the same with my VLB cards... eventually 😉

kixs wrote:

I like your project of benching many EISA cards

Against hopefully the same chipset versions in ISA.

kixs wrote:

Will do the same with my VLB cards... eventually

Yes. 😀