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New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2016-11-28 @ 11:15

Hi,

After safely removing the old heatsinks (YouTube) I finally managed to install some heatsinks on my V5, here are some pics:

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I used Sunon maglev fans which are whisper quiet (Link) I used these heatsinks (Link) But they needed modifying cause the holes were about 2mm out. I put the crappy fans they came with in the bin :) And I used Arctic Silver 5 for the thermal paste.

The prices for these fans and heatsinks are very reasonable. It took a LOT of searching before I found adequate items. There seems to be a lack of decent VGA heatsinks on ebay, and even the half decent ones cost lots, plus you can never be sure about the hole distance because half the time they don't even advertise it.

All working good.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby firage » 2016-11-28 @ 14:34

Job well done, looks pretty nice.

mzry wrote:I used these heatsinks (Link) But they needed modifying cause the holes were about 2mm out.

Were the heatsink's holes not actually 55mm apart or was the card's spacing something else?
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby meljor » 2016-11-28 @ 20:31

they look backwards, so they suck air instead of blowing air over the heatsink or am i wrong?
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby firage » 2016-11-28 @ 20:41

That's probably right (unless these fans run in reverse), but fans do the job in either configuration, and often more efficiently that way around. Since these old things don't come with temperature sensors, you're not really making an informed decision either way. Theoretically the card is blowing hot air in the opposite direction from the case's exhaust, though that's unlikely to matter.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby kanecvr » 2016-11-29 @ 01:16

mzry wrote:After safely removing the old heatsinks (YouTube)



... I used the heat pump from my SMD and simply twisted them off. No screwdriver needed.

meljor wrote:they look backwards, so they suck air instead of blowing air over the heatsink or am i wrong?


Yeah the fans are mounted backwards. I wouldn't leave them like that.

Personally I'd rather leave the original fans on the card since I consider it to be a historical piece. Replacing the heatsinks makes little to no difference, but replacing the crappy thermal glue 3dfx used is a good idea.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby Frasco » 2016-11-29 @ 03:16

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Oh, wise car mechanic :evil: , do you think there is still a chance for these historical piece (Voodoo4) ?

And how you remove rust from metal? I have some brackets, a Creative panel from Audigy 2 ZS and other
stuff in bad shape. I know vinegar is good and that's it.

kanecvr wrote:Replacing the crappy thermal glue 3dfx used is a good idea.

And what would glue the heatsink afterwards ?
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2016-11-29 @ 05:18

meljor wrote:they look backwards, so they suck air instead of blowing air over the heatsink or am i wrong?

Ah good catch, I didn't notice that. I'll switch them over ;)
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2016-11-29 @ 05:38

Frasco wrote:
kanecvr wrote:Replacing the crappy thermal glue 3dfx used is a good idea.

And what would glue the heatsink afterwards ?


If you wanted to keep the originals I would recommend Arctic Silver Alumina thermal epoxy. But IMO if you're going to the trouble of taking them off, it's better for the longevity of the card to put better hestsinks on. Especially if you're like me and regularly play games with it. Lets face it they're nice and rare things but they're not exactly the mona lisa if you get my drift.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2016-11-29 @ 05:44

kanecvr wrote:... I used the heat pump from my SMD and simply twisted them off. No screwdriver needed.


Yeah technically that's a better way, but not many people have that kind of equipment. A can of freeze spray is easy to obtain.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2016-11-29 @ 05:49

firage wrote:Job well done, looks pretty nice.
Were the heatsink's holes not actually 55mm apart or was the card's spacing something else?


The cards were something like 52/53mm so I had to cut the edge off one fin and elongate the hole back with a drill.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby firage » 2016-11-30 @ 22:07

Alright, I'm pretty convinced.

I'll get a cold spray and try some new heatsinks.
I like the price point and low height of these things: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VC-RD-Twinkli ... 0552830666
The fins just need to be bent a bit to make room for the closest 2 caps near one chip. I also found some replacement fans that get rid of the LED's and should run at 5V.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby firage » 2016-12-31 @ 18:00

I ended up going with Titan TTC-CUV1AB coolers for a sleeker classic look, and the Gembird VC-RD's will stay as backups for now.
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55 mm hole distance turned out to be right for my Mac DVI V5. Took the power connectors from the original fans, and got some custom stickers.

Very happy with the result. Thanks for the tips, got me to finally start work on the card.

About the cheapo VC-RD, its fan is perfect at 5V and the LED's don't even light up at that voltage, so I like it a lot for a fraction of the budget. The only issue is with the caps right next to the right hand side VSA-100; the VC-RD heatsink is a bit too wide, so its fins need to be bent to go around the caps. Not a major problem.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2017-1-01 @ 06:02

Wow that's absolutely beautiful! :)
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby Ampera » 2017-1-01 @ 09:57

Frasco wrote:Image

Oh, wise car mechanic :evil: , do you think there is still a chance for these historical piece (Voodoo4) ?

And how you remove rust from metal? I have some brackets, a Creative panel from Audigy 2 ZS and other
stuff in bad shape. I know vinegar is good and that's it.

kanecvr wrote:Replacing the crappy thermal glue 3dfx used is a good idea.

And what would glue the heatsink afterwards ?


I would assault it with Isopropyl Alchohol (Highest concentration possible) That should get rid of most of the damage, if there is still some, scrub it with baking soda, and than without rinsing, scrub it with vinegar. Make sure there is a decent amount of baking soda on there for a decent reaction.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby meljor » 2017-1-01 @ 13:29

firage wrote:I ended up going with Titan TTC-CUV1AB coolers for a sleeker classic look, and the Gembird VC-RD's will stay as backups for now.
Image
55 mm hole distance turned out to be right for my Mac DVI V5. Took the power connectors from the original fans, and got some custom stickers.

Very happy with the result. Thanks for the tips, got me to finally start work on the card.

About the cheapo VC-RD, its fan is perfect at 5V and the LED's don't even light up at that voltage, so I like it a lot for a fraction of the budget. The only issue is with the caps right next to the right hand side VSA-100; the VC-RD heatsink is a bit too wide, so its fins need to be bent to go around the caps. Not a major problem.



Okay, if you really need to change the original ones, THIS is the way! Looks very good, nice job!
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby meljor » 2017-1-01 @ 13:37

Ampera wrote:
Frasco wrote:Image

Oh, wise car mechanic :evil: , do you think there is still a chance for these historical piece (Voodoo4) ?

And how you remove rust from metal? I have some brackets, a Creative panel from Audigy 2 ZS and other
stuff in bad shape. I know vinegar is good and that's it.

kanecvr wrote:Replacing the crappy thermal glue 3dfx used is a good idea.

And what would glue the heatsink afterwards ?


I would assault it with Isopropyl Alchohol (Highest concentration possible) That should get rid of most of the damage, if there is still some, scrub it with baking soda, and than without rinsing, scrub it with vinegar. Make sure there is a decent amount of baking soda on there for a decent reaction.





That is no way near dead yet. If you're really unlucky it is a bad ram chip but it looks like a bad connection somewhere to me.
Start with the basics: clean the pci/agp contacts and try another board.

Try a very light pressure on the card in every direction while starting the computer (so in a test setup and loose in the slot). If there is way to get a good picture there probably is a bad connection.
Don't move it when powered on, just keep it in a direction in the slot until you shut it off again ofcourse. Sounds weird but i solved problems that way.

Otherwise try recapping the card or a little reflow with a heatgun or something.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby amijim » 2019-2-28 @ 16:30

Hello vogons,I am about to install two fanless Zalman zm80c heatsinks in my voodoo 5500.Please stay tuned for the details.
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby Kizmo » 2019-2-28 @ 17:54

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This is my solution for the card i repaired in my repair project thread. Seems to run fine at stock clock. :)
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby mzry » 2019-2-28 @ 18:11

Kizmo wrote:
V5cooler.jpg


This is my solution for the card i repaired in my repair project thread. Seems to run fine at stock clock. :)


I like your hestsinks, could you advise where to buy them from and whether the holes had to be manually drilled?
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Re: New heatsinks for my V5

Postby Kizmo » 2019-3-01 @ 20:03

mzry wrote:I like your hestsinks, could you advise where to buy them from and whether the holes had to be manually drilled?


These were junk box finds, i think passive coolers for Pentium I cpus of some sorts. I did cut and drill them to fit.
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