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Is this GPU Worth Keeping?

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First post, by rick12373

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I have just been going through my collection of old hardware and found an AGP card which I think has an Intel 740 chipset. Is this worth hanging on to for future retro builds?

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Reply 1 of 40, by Rhuwyn

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Intel 740 isn't much to write home about. I definately wouldn't keep it for it's (lack of) 3d abilities. It's might be fine for a 2D card but not really sure about compatibility.

Reply 2 of 40, by rick12373

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Rhuwyn wrote:

Intel 740 isn't much to write home about. I definately wouldn't keep it for it's (lack of) 3d abilities. It's might be fine for a 2D card but not really sure about compatibility.

Thanks. It is now on it's way to silicon heaven.

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16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 3 of 40, by Rhuwyn

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Here is a good article on it. There is a performance comparison to the Riva 128. If you are like me and have a ton of video cards then you will probably never use it. If you don't many spare AGP cards it might be worth keeping to have something to test and troubleshoot with but thats about it.

http://vintage3d.org/i740.php

Reply 4 of 40, by rick12373

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I do have a ton of cards, one of them being the Riva 128.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 5 of 40, by dondiego

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Actually it wasn't that bad, the 2d core was made by chips & technologies and was very compatible in dos, the 3d core came from real3d (not 3dlabs) and gave voodoo 1 class performance with good opengl support (intel bought both companies). The card had no 32 bit output however.

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Reply 6 of 40, by rick12373

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dondiego wrote:

Actually it wasn't that bad, the 2d core was made by chips & technologies and was very compatible in dos, the 3d core came from 3dlabs and gave voodoo 1 class performance with good opengl support (intel bought both companies). The card had no 32 bit output however.

It's too late now 🤣 I have to be little bit ruthless with what I keep due to lack of storage space.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 7 of 40, by SPBHM

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I was always kind of curious to play with one, because I had the Intel 810 back in 2000 (IGP based on i740, it also had some small dedicated memory)
and it gave me some decent experiences on games back then.

but obviously there are way better cards, if you check the old reviews it was not all that well received and not as fast as competitors.

still, it's a video card from Intel, I would keep it 😀

Reply 8 of 40, by lazibayer

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dondiego wrote:

Actually it wasn't that bad, the 2d core was made by chips & technologies and was very compatible in dos, the 3d core came from 3dlabs and gave voodoo 1 class performance with good opengl support (intel bought both companies). The card had no 32 bit output however.

You got the 2D part right but the 3D core came from Real3D, a team in Lockheed Martin.
Intel did acquire 3dlabs but that happened much later. 3Dlabs was first bought by Creative in 2002 and changed its name to Ziilabs in 2009. Intel bought Ziilabs in 2012.

Reply 9 of 40, by kanecvr

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I have an intel 740 and it's a decent enough card for older systems. They are also pretty rare:

"Discrete i740s weren't made in large numbers and were quite rare, making this one of our rarer video cards." source: http://hattix.co.uk/hardware/index.php?page=video1.html

Reply 10 of 40, by rick12373

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Not rare or useful enough for me make space for it unfortunately.

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 12 of 40, by nforce4max

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I would keep it as it is pretty uncommon and most of the less experienced collectors are clueless that they even exist let alone how to spot one. It was briefly considered ok until the Riva 128 hit the scene but overall performance is okish until you need something decent for 3D games.

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Reply 13 of 40, by Tetrium

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I think they went roughly the same way as Verité 2100. There used to be quite a lot of them but more of them went into the bin. For Rendition this probably had to do with not having drivers for XP (not sure about i740).

They aren't very common these days anymore. I think more of the i740's were tossed as not many people wanted to keep these and most weren't PCI (PCI was much more sought after back in the early 2000s)

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Reply 14 of 40, by clueless1

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graphics cards don't take up much space. 😀 I'd keep it, personally.

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Reply 15 of 40, by dondiego

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lazibayer wrote:

You got the 2D part right but the 3D core came from Real3D

True, a silly mistake.

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Reply 16 of 40, by Tetrium

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clueless1 wrote:

graphics cards don't take up much space. 😀 I'd keep it, personally.

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Reply 17 of 40, by cj_reha

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If you really don't want to keep it, slap it on eBay and maybe make a few bucks 🤣

For some reason I really like low end 90s PCI and AGP video cards so I'd snap it right up 🤣

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Reply 18 of 40, by rick12373

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It is still residing in my trash can at work. I could take it out, but I am pretty sure I will never use it. Probably not worth the effort to sell it on eBay. I might put it back in my box of GPUs, I am not really sure why though!

486 DX4-100 (overdrive)
16MB 72-pin SIMM RAM (2x8MB)
1MB Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB video card
SB 16 Value CT2770
AOpen VI15G Socket 3 Motherboard
HDD/FDD VLB controller card

Reply 19 of 40, by Tetrium

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If you don't even want it and don't want to bother selling it (or giving it away or something), you could always use it as a test card. It's how I use em 🤣

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