dexvx wrote:

From my memory, NV10 DDR was extremely volume limited in late 1999, but it did exist. The launch was actually more of a soft lau […]
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silikone wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Is there any way to know for sure? If it were not released before 2000, my OCD would hesitate to put it in the category of 1999 computer builds.

From my memory, NV10 DDR was extremely volume limited in late 1999, but it did exist. The launch was actually more of a soft launch because DDR SD/SGRAM was more abundant then. Basically when DDR got volume (Feb/Mar 2000), NV10 was already replaced by NV15 (April 2000) as the flagship. Add to that the cheaper NV11 offering similar performance, it made NV10 unviable in a very short amount of time. Thus the rarity (yes I only thought about this AFTER I created this thread).

Here are the in era reviews from Tomshardware, Anandtech, Firingsquad. Obviously Anandtech seems to be using an Nvidia Reference, so they got their early. But at least Tomshardware is using a retail Leadtek card. So it depends on how you want to look at it. Certainly the NDA was lifted

Leadtek GeForce 256 DDR, Jan 7, 2000.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/leadtek-w … iew,157-12.html

Reference GeForce 256 DDR, Dec 25, 1999.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/429

Asus V6800 (GeForce 256 DDR), Dec 18, 1999
Since Firingsquad has gone away, tweakers.net has a reference to review posted on Dec 18, 1999.
https://tweakers.net/nieuws/7733/asus-v6800-p … ddr-review.html

My 3D Blaster Annihilator DDR card has "1999" markings

Arctic wrote:

I only have one gf256 with 64MB DDR but it needs AGP Pro.

And you are sure this is a first generation GF256 card ? I thought those 64MB cards were SDR cards ?

AzzKickr wrote:

Arctic wrote:

I only have one gf256 with 64MB DDR but it needs AGP Pro.

And you are sure this is a first generation GF256 card ? I thought those 64MB cards were SDR cards ?

It's definitely available with DDR.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/585/17

silikone wrote:

AzzKickr wrote:

Arctic wrote:

I only have one gf256 with 64MB DDR but it needs AGP Pro.

And you are sure this is a first generation GF256 card ? I thought those 64MB cards were SDR cards ?

It's definitely available with DDR.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/585/17

It would indeed appear so ! I never knew that ! Cool

64 mb DDR variant usually looks like typical 32mb SDRAM card. Same board with very slight alterations to VRM and high density TSOP DDR chips.

I've only heard of the 64MB model spoken of in legends and folklore. I've never actually seen one.

I have one, it looks like SDRAM card:

Blue - typical SDRAM 32 mb model from Gigabyte.
Green - OEM (Dell?) with 6ns Hyundai DDR 64mb memory and DVI port.
EDIT:
Slightly different VRM (top right corner) and 4х more density for DDR chips (back of the card without memory). So yeah, it's hard to identify 64mb DDR even among GeForce 256 cards, if you don't know what to look for.

DVI is digital only of course.

64MB DDR SGRAM should also exist... at least the PCB here states 32/64MB - this one is only 32MB though. http://hw-museum.cz/vga/162/asus-geforce-256-ddr
And of course there is Quadro SDR/DDR which both equip full 64 MB http://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2/ … 0-nvidia-quadro

That's custom ASUS board though.

Good to know. I could even see that card being mistaken for a GeForce 2 (which happens a lot anyway). I always look for the long row of header pins at the top.

I have a soft spot for the look of SGRAM though. No idea why, I just love it.

Reputator wrote:

Good to know. I could even see that card being mistaken for a GeForce 2 (which happens a lot anyway). I always look for the long row of header pins at the top.

I have a soft spot for the look of SGRAM though. No idea why, I just love it.

I always wondered - what are those header pins on older AGP/PCI cards for?

appiah4 wrote:

Reputator wrote:

Good to know. I could even see that card being mistaken for a GeForce 2 (which happens a lot anyway). I always look for the long row of header pins at the top.

I have a soft spot for the look of SGRAM though. No idea why, I just love it.

I always wondered - what are those header pins on older AGP/PCI cards for?

As in the row of 26 pins across the top of Serpent Rider's green card?

looks like a VESA Feature connector?

appiah4 wrote:

I always wondered - what are those header pins on older AGP/PCI cards for?

I believe they're for diagnostic purposes during QC testing.

I'll add that my Dell OEM GeForce 256 DDR looks like Serpent Rider's, complete with handwritten serial number on the tab. Not sure if memory chips are the same though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-Guillemot-3D … u4AAOSwRXRZT~XN

Just as a tidbit to add to this thread, here's another GeForce 256 that just showed up, the SDR version for $75 plus a lot for shipping depending on where you live.

I'm in the market for one but not for that much.

75? Maybe I should sell the extra SDR I have..

Reputator wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-Guillemot-3D … u4AAOSwRXRZT~XN

Just as a tidbit to add to this thread, here's another GeForce 256 that just showed up, the SDR version for $75 plus a lot for shipping depending on where you live.

I'm in the market for one but not for that much.

charging €15 for national shipment on top of it while standard national shipment costs 6,95 here. anyway as I already noted in the other thread these kind of amount for a geforce 256 is just overpriced and shouldn't be taken as normal prices avg prices today are 20-40 for a geforce 256 depending on SDR or DDR.
Plenty of geforce 256 pop up as long you know how to search for the proper OEM designation, otherwise try Amibay they also sell them as I got my DDR quite fast there.

here's another GeForce 256 that just showed up, the SDR version for $75 plus a lot for shipping

Cheap high density SDR 7ns memory. Pure garbage. I think that's castrated 64bit memory bus version.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

here's another GeForce 256 that just showed up, the SDR version for $75 plus a lot for shipping

Cheap high density SDR 7ns memory. Pure garbage. I think that's castrated 64bit memory bus version.

The SE moniker always makes me cringe but I wasn't sure if it was as much a bad omen in 1999 as it was in the early 2000s.

And someone was naive enough to actually buy it for that price. Regret will be real probably.

Moving on here's some fun fact: GeForce 256 DDR chips can be found on some SDR cards.