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Using an FX 5200 for old games

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Reply 20 of 23, by Pidalin_CZ

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Old topic, but I just have some fun with old GPUs, so I can tell you that FX5200 is one of the worst GPUs ever, if you really want it, take at least 128bit version, 64bit is really really bad. The worst thing is that there is FX5200 LE, but they don't put LE on sticker, so you don't know if it's LE or not before you test it. And most of poor FX5200 are LE version which is 64bit/128MB with very low memory clock. Even poor MX440 has more power and old Ti 4200 is much more powerfull than FX5200.
FX5200 can't run playable neither 2001 games like RTCW, you have to set everything to low, it's really weak GPU.
I had FX5200 Tornado when I was kid, I didn't know it's so weak back in the day, I was happy that I can at least start the game, but when I test it today....no way, it's not usefull if you don't like FPS around 15. 😀 Difference between FX5200 and Ti 4200 is really massive, it's like 15 FPS compared to 80 and it's not really problem for such old games that Ti 4200 is mostly only 64MB, it's enough. If you want something more powerfull from FX series, find 5900 or 5900XT, these are good GPUs, when you put forceware 56.64 on it, you have great compatibility with old Win 98 games with known compatibility issues like AvP1999 and NFS5.

Reply 21 of 23, by clueless1

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Pidalin_CZ wrote on 2022-02-13, 18:48:

Old topic, but I just have some fun with old GPUs, so I can tell you that FX5200 is one of the worst GPUs ever, if you really want it, take at least 128bit version, 64bit is really really bad. The worst thing is that there is FX5200 LE, but they don't put LE on sticker, so you don't know if it's LE or not before you test it. And most of poor FX5200 are LE version which is 64bit/128MB with very low memory clock. Even poor MX440 has more power and old Ti 4200 is much more powerfull than FX5200.
FX5200 can't run playable neither 2001 games like RTCW, you have to set everything to low, it's really weak GPU.
I had FX5200 Tornado when I was kid, I didn't know it's so weak back in the day, I was happy that I can at least start the game, but when I test it today....no way, it's not usefull if you don't like FPS around 15. 😀 Difference between FX5200 and Ti 4200 is really massive, it's like 15 FPS compared to 80 and it's not really problem for such old games that Ti 4200 is mostly only 64MB, it's enough. If you want something more powerfull from FX series, find 5900 or 5900XT, these are good GPUs, when you put forceware 56.64 on it, you have great compatibility with old Win 98 games with known compatibility issues like AvP1999 and NFS5.

Huh. I have an FX5200 128 bit and it's about the same speed as a GF3 Ti200. IMO that's a very good speed for year 2000-2001 retro PC. But I do agree with you on the 64 bit variety.

edit: actually I'm looking at some old benchmarks of mine and the 64 bit FX5200 is very similar to the 128 bit version in low resolutions and color depths. It only starts really lagging behind at 800x600x32bpp and 1024x768x16bpp and 32bpp. 640x480x16bpp and 32bpp, and 800x600x16bpp performance is only a little bit slower than the Ti200 and 128 bit FX5200.

edit: here's how several card compare on a P3-933. This is a sum of a bunch of 3D marks (99, 2000, 2001) and Quake 2 benchmarks in all resolutions from 640x480 to 1024x768, 16bpp and 32bpp, then the sum is converted to percentage of top score.
Geforce3 Ti200 AGP 128MB 100%
Geforce FX5200 128-bit AGP 256MB 98.8%
Geforce FX5200 64-bit AGP 128MB 88.9%
Radeon 7200 AGP 32MB 70.5%
Geforce2 MX/MX400 AGP 64MB 69.7%
Geforce4 MX4000 AGP 65.9%
Geforce2 MX/MX400 AGP 32MB 64.8%

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Reply 22 of 23, by pentiumspeed

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How about checking out true 128bit FX5600 vs true 128bit FX5200?

I'm curious about the FX5600's performance difference for same situation using older games as stated?

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Reply 23 of 23, by 386SX

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What I don't like about the FX 5200 PCI card I've got is that it looks like quite power demanding also considering the heatsink heat generally. I still have to test it on a time correct Win 9x/ME or XP installation but the good thing is that last drivers can even work on Win 8.1 with some slow GUI but still 3D acceleration compatibility with that old driver.
Generally anyway even for the AGP version, it looks like consuming much power more than it actually would be expected from the performances. It was a low end card of course, not many expectations beside the compatibility. My card anyway requires a 2.2 PCI slot and I didn't test it on a 2.1 version.