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Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby Baoran » 2017-12-25 @ 19:29

Anyone knows what is the oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support? Basically I am trying to figure out if you can get openGL 2.1 working in windows 98 and if there are openGL 2.1 API compatible graphics cards that have windows 98 drivers.
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby Azarien » 2017-12-25 @ 22:09

I would suggest looking into the other direction:
Look up for cards mentioned in this thread and find what OpenGL version they support.
But I think 2.0 will the the best you could go.

GL 2.0 and 2.1 aren't very different, there isn't anything in 2.1 that would make it fundamentally impossible on Windows 9x. But it came only a month before Vista, so 9x support wasn't exactly on hardware vendors' radars anymore...
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby Bobolaf » 2017-12-26 @ 00:08

It was not the most popular standard that most of the early brands never made it to or skipped so never had Windows 98 compatible cards. The only brand I can think of off is that does is Nvidia. They had cards in the GeForce 6xxx range with hardware 2.1 support and the 7xxx cards could be used to with unofficial modified drivers. I believe some of the earlier Nvidia cards hard 2.1 added through software emulation in later drivers though cant recall if it ever happened for the Windows 98 drivers. ( EDIT: looks like I am mistaken and even the 6xxx and 7xxx only had it under XP )
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby Baoran » 2017-12-26 @ 05:29

I do have x800 pro card that I could install on it and use catalyst 6.2, but I can't find information if there is any kind of openGL 2.1 emulation there or if it would be pointless.
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby silikone » 2017-12-26 @ 06:05

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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby Bobolaf » 2017-12-26 @ 08:51

Silikone I think your correct it does look like I am mistaken. It does look like they only implemented it under XP and never in the windows 98 Drivers.
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby vlask » 2017-12-26 @ 09:04

Baoran wrote:Anyone knows what is the oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support? Basically I am trying to figure out if you can get openGL 2.1 working in windows 98 and if there are openGL 2.1 API compatible graphics cards that have windows 98 drivers.


Whole GeForce FX line have 2.1 support. Not sure about drivers version....i'm using always latest.

Radeons since 9xxx line.....

http://vgamuseum.info/images/doc/nvidia/fx5700.txt

Btw you can always use advanced search at my site....search for opengl version support is there too...

https://goo.gl/Z4AeQT
Not only mine graphics cards collection at http://www.vgamuseum.info
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby swaaye » 2017-12-26 @ 19:57

That would be Radeon 9500+. The 8500-9250 are OpenGL 1.3.
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby gdjacobs » 2017-12-27 @ 00:53

According to the MESA guys, R(V)2xx cards are good for OpenGL 1.4, not like it's a huge difference.
https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index6h2
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby swaaye » 2017-12-27 @ 01:46

gdjacobs wrote:According to the MESA guys, R(V)2xx cards are good for OpenGL 1.4, not like it's a huge difference.
https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index6h2

Interesting. Maybe the Linux driver developers emulated the extra 1.4 functions. I found a few references with info about why the chips couldn't support 1.4.

https://www.opengl.org/discussion_board ... upport-1-4
https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Har ... ifics:_ATI
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Re: Oldest graphics card with openGL 2.1 support?

Postby gdjacobs » 2017-12-27 @ 02:08

Hardware capability vs OpenGL 1.3 as implemented in drivers. They have access to the hardware documents and seem to think it's viable.
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