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Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-1-02 @ 12:14

New problem I've found. I have graphical glitches like in attachments but it appears ONLY in windows98, in clear DOS6.22 and win98's DOS mode it didn't. Is it the drivers fault or something else?
In Tomb Raider games, I quickly tested, everything is ok unless I'll disconnect Voodoo then slide show. xD
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby derSammler » 2018-1-02 @ 12:19

Bad RAM chip(s) on the Voodoo card.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby clueless1 » 2018-1-02 @ 12:25

It wasn't clear to me by your post, did you test the Voodoo in a 3D game in straight DOS or MS-DOS mode, and no corruption?
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-1-02 @ 12:43

Well, I ran 5 Tomb Raider games on clear DOS 6.22 and all 5 ran perfect and on win98 those gliches.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby derSammler » 2018-1-02 @ 13:02

haker120 wrote:Well, I ran 5 Tomb Raider games on clear DOS 6.22 and all 5 ran perfect and on win98 those gliches.

Err... what? There aren't even 5 Tomb Raider games for DOS, let alone 3Dfx support. Are your threads even real or are you trying to fool us?
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-1-02 @ 13:14

My bad with counting. xD Of course I meant 4 games.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby Munx » 2018-1-02 @ 15:49

Add these 2 files to your C drive (make a backup of autoexec first). This will underclock your Voodoo to 45MHz. If the problem persists then...I don't know.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby derSammler » 2018-1-02 @ 15:57

haker120 wrote:My bad with counting. xD Of course I meant 4 games.

So tell us how you play Tomb Raider II and the rest under MS-DOS 6.22, as only Tomb Raider 1 is a DOS game...
haker120 wrote:Well, I ran 5 Tomb Raider games on clear DOS 6.22 and all 5 ran perfect and on win98 those gliches.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby clueless1 » 2018-1-02 @ 17:18

derSammler wrote:
haker120 wrote:My bad with counting. xD Of course I meant 4 games.

So tell us how you play Tomb Raider II and the rest under MS-DOS 6.22, as only Tomb Raider 1 is a DOS game...
haker120 wrote:Well, I ran 5 Tomb Raider games on clear DOS 6.22 and all 5 ran perfect and on win98 those gliches.

Yeah, that too. LOL

Assuming you just meant Tomb Raider 1, when you test it in real DOS, is it running through the Voodoo (ie, with 3d acceleration) or might it be running in 2D mode through your 2D VGA card? We need to know if the corruption is gone in DOS because of something about DOS, or because the Voodoo is not being used when you're running it in DOS. In other words, are you using the Voodoo-specific Tomb Raider executable?
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-1-02 @ 17:22

Honestly? No idea, I have those 4 games, I just run first one and I took as something certain the rest will work too. I don't know why but without voodoo Tomb Raider is a slideshow. Sorry for that guys, especially I really need to recieve help.

And I have A-Trend 4MB Voodoo if this changes anything.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby leileilol » 2018-1-02 @ 19:38

Munx wrote:Add these 2 files to your C drive (make a backup of autoexec first).

What's wrong with just saying "add set SST_GRXCLK=45 to autoexec.bat"?

Never replace autoexec.bat on a whim.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby Munx » 2018-1-02 @ 20:50

leileilol wrote:
Munx wrote:Add these 2 files to your C drive (make a backup of autoexec first).

What's wrong with just saying "add set SST_GRXCLK=45 to autoexec.bat"?

Never replace autoexec.bat on a whim.

I only use the autoexec for Voodoo in my w9x builds personally...so yeah, my bad...better just add the line to the existing one if you have it :lol:
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-1-04 @ 10:34

I bought other Voodoo Graphic card and all problems vanished. This time regular one with 3DFX logo on green PCB. This A-trend seems to work under DOS only.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby SpeedySPCFan » 2018-1-06 @ 19:32

I had this exact problem when my Voodoo 3 was dying, and after about another day or two of use it died completely. Sorry to say that the card in the OP may be going down the same route.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-2-26 @ 19:11

Graphic card had resoldered all possible things, main chips had fixed pins and I'm waiting for it, was sent back to me from fixing. Did this help? Person who was fixing it is great with reballing things and fixing small layouts but the oldest PC he has is on socket 775 so couldn't really check it except it's detected by windows 7.
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby meljor » 2018-2-26 @ 21:36

haker120 wrote:Graphic card had resoldered all possible things, main chips had fixed pins and I'm waiting for it, was sent back to me from fixing. Did this help? Person who was fixing it is great with reballing things and fixing small layouts but the oldest PC he has is on socket 775 so couldn't really check it except it's detected by windows 7.


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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-2-28 @ 19:03

I've checked it with TOMB.EXE for 3DFX and works without glitches so I assume everything is ok, right?
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby derSammler » 2018-2-28 @ 19:21

To quote you from the very first post:
In Tomb Raider games, I quickly tested, everything is ok unless I'll disconnect Voodoo then slide show. xD

So you did test the repaired card with a game that already worked before..? Genius!
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Re: Black Voodoo Graphics, graphical glitches in win98 mode only

Postby haker120 » 2018-3-06 @ 16:42

Before I tested original game without glide support so I was wrong. Now I used 3DFX exe for the game.
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