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An alternative to the GTX285 for those Overkill XP Builds

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First post, by Almoststew1990

Posted on 2018-08-04, 18:24

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This weekend, disaster struck! My main PC kept getting "pulsing" gameplay. Here is a nice graph made in excel based on FRAPS frametime recordings of GTA V if you care. Turns out my GPU fan had fallen out of its mount and my GPU was throttling. I put in a back-up GPU. I have two; a GTX 285, and a GTX 645, an OEM thing. I had no idea which would be faster! So I benchmarked them of course!

As I was on my main PC I benchmarked them on a mix of DX9 and 10 games rather than DX8 or DX9. Anyway...

The 645 is a bit slower. However, the GTX 645 has several advantages over the GTX 285.

Cool
Quiet
Short
Single Slot
No external power required
DX11 if required
Audio over HDMI without any internal cables
Has Display Port connector

My GTX 285 always used to be my go-to XP/Vista card but now I think I'll stick the GTX645 in instead!

P.S my 390X is back up and running after a bit of bodging! Runs very cool now!

Reply 1 of 10, by Unknown_K

Posted on 2018-08-04, 18:35

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I had a PS cooling fan pop off like that once. If you peal the label off the back of the cooling fan you will find a small plastic disk with a slit in one side that sits in a groove on the fan shaft holding it in place. If that disc comes loose the fan blade will come off.

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Reply 2 of 10, by The Serpent Rider

Posted on 2018-08-04, 18:52

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Not brutal enough.

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Reply 3 of 10, by BeginnerGuy

Posted on 2018-08-04, 19:02

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I'm a big fan of the 750Ti due to it's small power consumption. It's absolutely, ridiculously overkill for XP gaming. Esp if you're like me and your XP rig is hooked up to a 1280x1024 monitor 😎

I wonder how it compares to that monstrosity 285

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Reply 4 of 10, by cyclone3d

Posted on 2018-08-04, 19:09

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Thought you were going to say you swapped it for a GTX 295... but nooooooo 🤣

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Reply 5 of 10, by candle_86

Posted on 2018-08-05, 03:39

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Overkill would be x58 with triple GTX 285 🤣

Reply 6 of 10, by The Serpent Rider

Posted on 2018-08-05, 11:44

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Quad GTX 285 2gb.

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Reply 7 of 10, by agent_x007

Posted on 2018-08-06, 17:49

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You can't Tri/Quad SLI on Win XP : LINK
Not with DX10 cards at least.

A GTX 750 Ti will desimate GTX 285 in DX9/10.
In Win XP the only titles that will prefer GTX 285 are probably TMU/ROP heavy ones (like DX7/DX8 games).
Not optimising for them on Maxwell 1.0 is another thing worth mentioning.

Reply 8 of 10, by lordmogul

Posted on 2018-08-27, 10:45

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Overkill would be 2700K & 780 Ti!

As a replacement for a 285 something like a GTX 560 or HD 5850/6870 would be in the same league.

It all comes down how much period correctness vs power consumption is a concern. And sometimes newer cards (especially those of lower market position) aren't really faster. Some features just haven't improved that much.
For excample your GTX 285 has more memory bandwith than a current 1050, it's pixel fillrate is higher than those of a 760 and the texel fillrate is above a 950, but all those cards are easily faster in usual everyday gaming.
Talking about the 285, just compare it to the 275 and 280, it isn't to easy to guess which of the later cards is faster, and in fact, it depends.

Also those bouncy frames remind me of my experience with shadowplay:

Reply 9 of 10, by buckeye

Posted on 2018-08-27, 14:48

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Are 750ti drivers compatible with XP SP2? Was looking at getting an GTX285 but they're friggin huge, not good for my mini atx setup.

Asus P5N-E Intel Core 2 Duo 3.33ghz. 4GB DDR2 Geforce 470 1GB SB X-Fi Titanium 650W XP SP3
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Reply 10 of 10, by agent_x007

Posted on 2018-08-27, 16:35

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lordmogul wrote:
Overkill would be 2700K & 780 Ti!

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XP : LINK
Valid : https://www.3dmark.com/3dm03/6536125
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