Why are you trying to install DirectX 5 on Win98? 98 ships with 6 minimum. Also Q3 would only work with the driver found in vg-w9x-q3.exe

leileilol wrote:

Why are you trying to install DirectX 5 on Win98? 98 ships with 6 minimum. Also Q3 would only work with the driver found in vg-w9x-q3.exe

Hi,
Sorry, that was a typo. I meant DX6. I just tried that driver, and games still won't boot. Quake III still has the same issue. It detects the Voodoo, attempts to boot 3dfxogl/vgl.dll, and then craps out with:

"Making Content Current: Failed
Failed hard"

That's in the Quake III startup console, and it says it cannot load the OpenGL subsystem. I'm stumped!! 😵

1. Don't play Q3 with a V1, this will be a dissapointment.
2. I did lot's of testing and the v1 is in fact cpu-speed-sensitive. Your CPU is too fast and so there will be problems in D3D/ogl but not in native glide.
3. I think the best option was the 1998 driver from 3dfx. It had less problems. Most things were fine with it.
4. I also recommend that you use 15" TFT (1024x768) and use 512x384 as playing resolution. It gives you MUCH! more speed then 640x480 and does not look any worse.
5. Win98se with DX6.1 should be fine and DX7 should also be no problem.

Doc

dr.zeissler wrote:

1. Don't play Q3 with a V1, this will be a dissapointment. 2. I did lot's of testing and the v1 is in fact cpu-speed-sensitive. […]
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1. Don't play Q3 with a V1, this will be a dissapointment.
2. I did lot's of testing and the v1 is in fact cpu-speed-sensitive. Your CPU is too fast and so there will be problems in D3D/ogl but not in native glide.
3. I think the best option was the 1998 driver from 3dfx. It had less problems. Most things were fine with it.
4. I also recommend that you use 15" TFT (1024x768) and use 512x384 as playing resolution. It gives you MUCH! more speed then 640x480 and does not look any worse.
5. Win98se with DX6.1 should be fine and DX7 should also be no problem.

Doc

1. I'm aware it won't be the fastest. However, after watching YouTube videos of similar setups it seems to run surprsingly well at 640x480.
2. I've seen people running Quake III Arena with a Voodoo 1 and much faster P III (1Ghz!!).
3. I've tried multiple drivers. Absolutely nothing will boot. The card is detected, the drivers install just fine, the card is in perfect shape, but no game will run.
4. I'm using a 15 inch LCD @ 1024x768.
5. Win98 SE with DirectX 7 is exactly what I'm using. Quake III still crashes with the failed hard thing and saying it can't find a pixel format.

Try a DOS game to rule out the possibility of a Windows-related problem.

konc wrote:

Try a DOS game to rule out the possibility of a Windows-related problem.

I've tried the DOS 3DFX Tomb Raider demo, and the various other 3DFX tech demos. Same issue. Literally nothing will run.

ogl glide/wrappers will mostly be fine, even on faster systems. D3D is defentive problematic with v1 on faster >300mhz.
change the pci-slot.

Oh well. I'm returning it for a refund, and have grabbed a Voodoo II.

leileilol wrote:

Why are you trying to install DirectX 5 on Win98? 98 ships with 6 minimum. Also Q3 would only work with the driver found in vg-w9x-q3.exe

I don't mean to be the sort of person who corrects things out of habit, but Windows 98 First Edition came with DirectX 5 (either 5.1 or 5.2?). Windows 98 Second Edition did come with DirectX 6, so you seem to have left out a little often forgotten family member here. 😀

KCompRoom2000 wrote:

leileilol wrote:

Why are you trying to install DirectX 5 on Win98? 98 ships with 6 minimum. Also Q3 would only work with the driver found in vg-w9x-q3.exe

I don't mean to be the sort of person who corrects things out of habit, but Windows 98 First Edition came with DirectX 5 (either 5.1 or 5.2?). Windows 98 Second Edition did come with DirectX 6, so you seem to have left out a little often forgotten family member here. 😀

They were correct though, as I'm using 98 SE!