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Miro S3 Trio32 VLB opinions

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Reply 20 of 26, by keropi

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I'm using a MAX10 FPGA, anything is possible pretty much but for starters it'll only do MDA/CGA/EGA/VGA + VESA, enough for DOS stuff. Eventually I'll learn Windows driver making and then I can add 2D acceleration and maybe even dabble with 3D acceleration. It is supposed to become the fastest and most compatible video card there is for the old machines, with 15KHz output for connection to a random TV (RGB, S-video and composhit) and VGA+DVI output capable of at least showing 1920x1080 so that it can bypass potentially shitty scaling of some monitor. The card is both ISA and VLB, it can be used in 16bit ISA alone aswell. Video BIOS will be the hardest part for me, for the time being there's nothing more than incomplete PCB design. Eventually when there's more money and some other things are out the way I will continue working on this thing.

I have been waiting for something like this to exist!
Playing cga/ega/vga games on a nice 15k monitor like a 1084 is a dream for me 😎
Personally I wouldn't really bother with windows gui acceleration or 3d - that card looks to me as the perfect 2d gaming one - eagerly awaiting more news on this!!!

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Reply 21 of 26, by BinaryDemon

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Tiido wrote:
I have started a VLB IO and video card project. http://www.tmeeco.eu/TKAVIVC/T-01VIVC-A.png […]
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I have started a VLB IO and video card project.
T-01VIVC-A.png

Ah very cool. Has there ever been a combo VLB I/O Videocard before? I’d be concerned it would be a bottleneck if both devices were used simultaneously, although heavy I/O and dos gaming aren’t a typical scenario.

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Reply 22 of 26, by Unknown_K

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There were one slot VGA + HD + I/O cards back in the day.

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Reply 23 of 26, by Tiido

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keropi wrote:

I have been waiting for something like this to exist!
Playing cga/ega/vga games on a nice 15k monitor like a 1084 is a dream for me 😎
Personally I wouldn't really bother with windows gui acceleration or 3d - that card looks to me as the perfect 2d gaming one - eagerly awaiting more news on this!!!

2D acceleration is important to me, Windows will work way nicer then. 3D is more or less playground to bigger things 🤣
In any case there's not gonna be happening on this front for a while, I don't have the money or time right now...

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Reply 24 of 26, by Anonymous Coward

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canthearu wrote:
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For example: ET6000, CL-GD 5436 (maybe 5446), ARK2000, Trident 9680 and s3 Virge.

Can you get those in any kind of quantity anymore. It looks like the board design is for some kind of FPGA module that could emulate a VGA chip and maybe some highly compatible blitter.

It's worth looking into. The Tridents, CL and s3 chips are the most likely to still be around in quantity.
I'm curious when the VLB support was dropped from the ViRGE chips. I am fairly certain the original ViRGE has it.

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Reply 25 of 26, by RonySol

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Gered wrote on 2019-04-27, 16:43:

I have one of these cards in my 486 PC (see link in my signature). It's a great card, I quite like it. I also picked mine up on eBay a couple years ago for a similar price. I remember being shocked when I saw it and bought it without hesitation, 🤣.

Hello Gered, Have you ever managed to upgrade the vesa bios from 1.2 to 2.0 for use with games that require that bios version ?

Reply 26 of 26, by mkarcher

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Anonymous Coward wrote on 2019-05-01, 00:28:
canthearu wrote:
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For example: ET6000, CL-GD 5436 (maybe 5446), ARK2000, Trident 9680 and s3 Virge.

Can you get those in any kind of quantity anymore. It looks like the board design is for some kind of FPGA module that could emulate a VGA chip and maybe some highly compatible blitter.

It's worth looking into. The Tridents, CL and s3 chips are the most likely to still be around in quantity.
I'm curious when the VLB support was dropped from the ViRGE chips. I am fairly certain the original ViRGE has it.

The Virge has it, the Virge/DX doesn't have it. VLB is already feature-reduced on the Virge (only half the RAM is supported) due to the amount of pins the non-multiplexed address/data bus of VL needs. IIRC the Virge is limited to 2MB of RAM in VL mode, while it can handle 4MB in PCI mode. I don't think a 2MB Virge/DX card would have sold that well, so it made sense they dropped VL at that point. There is a thread about a home-brew Virge VLB video card project here on vogons.