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"ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby xjas » 2019-8-09 @ 21:28

I found this driver on an old ATI Rage CD-ROM. It purports to be an optimized MiniGL for Quake 1 & Quake 2 for Rage Pro-based cards.

I don't have a Rage Pro in anything set up, so I haven't been able to test it out. I can find very little info about this driver online. Googling "ATIQUAKE.EXE" only yields three results right now, two of them junk sites.

Grab it here:

ATIQUAKE.7z
(1.08 MiB) Downloaded 12 times

Is this anything interesting? Or is it more commonly found under another name? If it's worth archiving 'properly' I'll upload it on Vogonsdrivers. The exe & readme file in the archive are untouched as they were on the CD. Those two files are all that was there.

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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby nali » 2019-8-10 @ 12:45

I had a Rage Play, and I remember playing Quake 1 OpenGL with this card.
But I can't remember if it needed a specific binary, or just the OpenGL glquake with an Ati opengl32.dll ...
I also remember I was not impressed with the result, since I also had a Voodoo1 :) Image quality and speed were not as great as with the 3Dfx, on a Pentium 233 MMX.
But at least, it worked.
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby vlask » 2019-8-10 @ 14:11

Ati Rage Pro cards have full OpenGL 1.1 support at last in latest drivers. So these minigl drivers maybe been for use early after release, when driver had not OpenGL support ready....
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby Blzut3 » 2019-8-10 @ 18:38

I would be curious to know if by any chance that CD has the NT 3.51 driver for the Rage Pro? ATI's website at the time acknowledges that a 3.51 driver for the PCI Rage Pro exists but only on the CD or via reaching out to support. The only copy of it I've seen so far is the one on Dell's website, but that lacks the OpenGL files which supposedly exist.
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby lost77 » 2019-8-10 @ 22:35

I did some quick testing with this miniGL today. Pentium II 333Mhz and Rage 3D Pro 4MB. 640x480 Resolution.

miniGL beta3 (May 1998):
Quake: 19.1 Quake II: 15.6

5.30 Drivers (June 1998):
Quake: 27.0 Quake II: 23.9

5.40 Drivers (September 1999):
Quake: 29.3 Quake II: 23.7

Some Rage XL Drivers (February 2002):
Quake: 29.8 Quake II: 23.9


The miniGL worked with the default Windows 98 SE drivers that don't contain a hardware ICD. Basically it was a way to play Quake with hardware acceleration for a few months or however long between beta 1 and the first full ICD. This might work with other OpenGL games as well (readme mentions bugfixes for Hexen II).

NOTE: There might be much less difference in speed with a slow processor. The readme mentions Pentium 133 as a minimum requirement. Maybe someone can test that.
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby nali » 2019-8-10 @ 23:52

Way slower than a Voodoo ...
When I bought my first computer, it was the Pentium 233 MMX, with a cheap Trio video card.
I quickly wanted to upgrade the video card, and hesitate between a Rage Xpert Play or a Voodoo. I choose a Voodoo, since OpenGL was supposed to be available soon. Same price both.
Good card, but OpenGL never arrived ... So I also bought a Voodoo 1 :)
What I loved with this card was the Tv-out. I worked without activating anything in the driver panel. Just plug to a TV and it works like a regular screen.
It was a really good card, but had trouble to be as good as a Voodoo.
I remember I played Quake 1 640x480 at 40 fps, with a few tweaks. Much more than 29 fps with a Pentium 2 333 Mhz.
And nicer too. The Rage Xplay makes every gun shot a "square!.
I'd like to get another one anyway :)
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby xjas » 2019-8-11 @ 02:07

Cool stuff, thanks for looking into it guys! Interesting about the MiniGL. I doubt it's that useful these days, but maybe nice to have from a historical perspective.

I uploaded the whole disc here, so have at it. It does have the NT3.51 drivers, along with OS/2 and Windows 3.1. It also has some hardware MPEG decoder/playback software and a bunch of gloriously cheesy '90s MPEG sample clips which take up most of the space. There might be other stuff on there too; I haven't explored the whole thing.

I wouldn't have thought there'd be "lost" drivers for such a common video chip. Hope this proves useful.
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby Blzut3 » 2019-8-11 @ 03:06

xjas wrote:I uploaded the whole disc here, so have at it. It does have the NT3.51 drivers, along with OS/2 and Windows 3.1. It also has some hardware MPEG decoder/playback software and a bunch of gloriously cheesy '90s MPEG sample clips which take up most of the space. There might be other stuff on there too; I haven't explored the whole thing.

I wouldn't have thought there'd be "lost" drivers for such a common video chip. Hope this proves useful.

Thanks. Sadly I'm not sure that's the lost driver that may or may not actually exist. Dell's driver is apparently dated a few months later and has files "atirage.sys" and "atirage.dll". (By the way, I don't know if you want to mirror that to vogons drivers. May be the only copy on the Internet for all I know.) In theory if the readme is to be believed there exists an optional OpenGL piece, but given that it appears to be more or less copy and paste from the other driver it's entirely possible the Dell driver is all that actually exists. Definitely good to archive these driver discs as you never know.

It may be a common chip but ATi's driver upload policy at the time seems to have been "only if there's an update." And the NT 3.51 drivers besides I think the Mach drivers didn't get any update.
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby xjas » 2019-8-11 @ 04:20

^^ does the "Quake" MiniGL work in NT3.5? I wonder if that's what they were referring to. As Lost77 noted, it might run other software beyond Quake, depending on how complete the OGL implementation is.
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Re: "ATIQuake" miniGL for Q1 & Q2 on Rage Pro

Postby Blzut3 » 2019-8-11 @ 05:45

It's definitely an MCD that they're referring to. What I don't know is if it's the same MCD as for the Rage II which is available on the archived site. They have the same feature support according to the FAQ so it's not implausible.

I can't test myself since I don't have a Rage Pro nor a machine running NT 3.51. But awhile back was curious what hardware a theoretical NT 3.51 machine could use and found that ATi seems to be (hard to confirm with things this old) the only vendor that may have hardware accelerated OpenGL. (All other cards I'm aware of with 3.51 drivers explicitly say that 3D acceleration is not supported.) With that it seems only the Rage II series and Rage Pro had an MCD.

There is however evidence that the Pro MCD does not actually exist since the older page says it's not on the CD and this other OpenGL page which talks about ATIQuake corroborates the Pro MCD being NT4 exclusive.
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