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First post, by Oj0

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Does anyone know some details on these? Wikipedia and TechPowerUp offer different information, and this conflicting info seems to exist all over the net. Furthermore, there is info that conflicts with everything both sites say.

SST1:
Wiki - Voodoo Graphics, 7 October 1996, 500nm, PCI, 4/6/8MB, 50MHz core, 50MHz memory
TPU - Voodoo Graphics, 7 October 1996, 500nm, PCI, 4MB, 50MHz core, 50MHz memory
Elsewhere - Voodoo Graphics, 7 October 1996, 4/6MB, 45MHz core, 45MHz memory

SST2:
Wiki - Voodoo2, 1 March 1998, 350nm, PCI, 8/12MB, 90MHz core, 90MHz memory
TPU - Voodoo 2, 2 Feb 1998, 350nm, PCI, 8/12MB, 90MHz core, 90MHz memory

SST96:
Wiki - Voodoo Rush, 1 April 1997, 500nm, PCI, 4/6/8MB, 50 MHz core, 50MHz memory
TPU - Voodoo Rush, unknown, 350nm, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown

Avenger on Velocity 100/200
Wiki - 2 TMUs, 1 ROPs
TPU - 2 TMUs, 1 ROP
Elsewhere - Same as Voodoo3 1000 but with a TMU disabled

Differences are in italics.

Can anyone clear this up for sure?

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Reply 2 of 14, by Oj0

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Thanks for the links 😀 As interesting as they were to read, unfortunately they didn't answer any of my questions 🙁

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Reply 4 of 14, by Oj0

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yjfy wrote on 2020-04-19, 13:51:

Please take a closer look

I read them before posting. I can't see anything about 45 MHz Voodoo 1s, did they exist? I also don't see the official release date for the Voodoo2 (not manufacture date - retail launch date). Do you know what it is?

If it is indeed there I apologise - I might have lockdown vision.

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Reply 5 of 14, by havli

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I believe Voodoo 1 clock is set by the driver. So perhaps with some specific drivers there might be 45 MHz.
Regarding Velocity 100 - both TMUs are active when running direct3D application... and only one when running OGL/glide. Velocity 200 was never released. The intended specification was most likely 125 MHz, 2 TMU, 16 MB.

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Reply 7 of 14, by Oj0

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havli wrote on 2020-04-19, 18:29:

I believe Voodoo 1 clock is set by the driver. So perhaps with some specific drivers there might be 45 MHz.
Regarding Velocity 100 - both TMUs are active when running direct3D application... and only one when running OGL/glide. Velocity 200 was never released. The intended specification was most likely 125 MHz, 2 TMU, 16 MB.

There must be more than just drivers - surely the SST1 isn't just "dead" (0MHz) without a driver installed?

I think that covers everything - SST96 was definitely 500nm?

I'm busy compiling a massive spreadsheet of every spec available, Glide games, etc for easy reference, hence wanting all this info to be accurate 😀

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Reply 8 of 14, by vlask

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Oj0 wrote on 2020-04-20, 08:11:
There must be more than just drivers - surely the SST1 isn't just "dead" (0MHz) without a driver installed? […]
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havli wrote on 2020-04-19, 18:29:

I believe Voodoo 1 clock is set by the driver. So perhaps with some specific drivers there might be 45 MHz.
Regarding Velocity 100 - both TMUs are active when running direct3D application... and only one when running OGL/glide. Velocity 200 was never released. The intended specification was most likely 125 MHz, 2 TMU, 16 MB.

There must be more than just drivers - surely the SST1 isn't just "dead" (0MHz) without a driver installed?

I think that covers everything - SST96 was definitely 500nm?

I'm busy compiling a massive spreadsheet of every spec available, Glide games, etc for easy reference, hence wanting all this info to be accurate 😀

Different manufacturers could made different clocked cards - this is most relevant with Rush cards. So you have to use reference clocks, as there always be some under/overclocked models.....
Most common for voodoo 1 are 50 and 45MHz..
Check datasheets - Voodoo 1 datasheet speaks about 50MHz.... see http://vgamuseum.info/images/doc/3dfx/

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Reply 9 of 14, by Putas

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Oj0 wrote on 2020-04-20, 08:11:

I think that covers everything - SST96 was definitely 500nm?

We are not sure about the FJR chip, unless the first number on print are nanometers. My guess is it is 500 nm.

Reply 10 of 14, by Oj0

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Putas wrote on 2020-04-20, 13:05:
Oj0 wrote on 2020-04-20, 08:11:

I think that covers everything - SST96 was definitely 500nm?

We are not sure about the FJR chip, unless the first number on print are nanometers. My guess is it is 500 nm.

I don't think the numbers have anything to do with it 🙁

Voodoo2 (350nm): 500-0009-01
Voodoo Banshee (350nm): 500-0013-04
Voodoo3 1000 (250nm): 355-0025-001

etc.

The release date is halfway between the 1m gate SST1 and 4m gate SST2, although closer to the SST1's release date. I guess for now I'll wing it and say 500nm.

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Reply 11 of 14, by havli

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Btw - there are dieshots of most 3dfx chips available https://www.flickr.com/photos/130561288@N04/29001548618/ Unfortunately Rush is missing.

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Reply 12 of 14, by Oj0

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There seems to be a massive lack of Rush info around 🙁

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Reply 14 of 14, by Oj0

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Putas wrote on 2020-04-29, 15:03:

Maybe by 3dfx standards. BTW why do you need it?

Yes, indeed. No real reason other than personal curiosity 😀

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