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Reply 20 of 173, by Pierre32

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Prez wrote on 2020-05-28, 09:30:
Hi all ! I just received this one, very cheap, only $10, and it works so great !! https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07VW6VK66/r […]
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Hi all !
I just received this one, very cheap, only $10, and it works so great !!
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07VW6VK66/r … 0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

From Windows 98 screens in 1024x768 with a perfect image to MS-DOS gaming in VGA, everything is fine !

Here is a first result, i think its perfect for this price :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8e6Nxl6VU8

I just used a cheap HDMI H264 encoder ($30), the video quality is even better than that you can watch on youtube of course !

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Interesting! And it's so cheap (even the ones I found in Australia that look to be the same thing) that it's worth grabbing one just to find out for myself. Thanks for the update!

Reply 21 of 173, by darry

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Pierre32 wrote on 2020-05-28, 10:48:
Prez wrote on 2020-05-28, 09:30:
Hi all ! I just received this one, very cheap, only $10, and it works so great !! https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07VW6VK66/r […]
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Hi all !
I just received this one, very cheap, only $10, and it works so great !!
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07VW6VK66/r … 0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

From Windows 98 screens in 1024x768 with a perfect image to MS-DOS gaming in VGA, everything is fine !

Here is a first result, i think its perfect for this price :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8e6Nxl6VU8

I just used a cheap HDMI H264 encoder ($30), the video quality is even better than that you can watch on youtube of course !

Best regards
Philippe Dubois

Interesting! And it's so cheap (even the ones I found in Australia that look to be the same thing) that it's worth grabbing one just to find out for myself. Thanks for the update!

Be careful with appearances. I bought 2 identical looking ones to that a few years back and they never worked at all . There may well be different variants with identical casings .

Reply 22 of 173, by Pierre32

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Yeah, it's always hard to tell. The one I found has the same enclosure etc but is not 100% identical. For $12 it's worth the punt. I've gambled on much more expensive ones and lost.

Reply 23 of 173, by Prez

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Hi all,

Lets dissasemble the thing to see actually what chip is used, to be a little more sure.
I just ordered two more to be sure its okay 😉

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Reply 26 of 173, by Prez

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STOP !!
It doesn't work sorry !
I did test on the VGA output of my Toshiba SP4200 laptop, and i just realized that it outputs a 60 Hz VGA signal ! Even in DOS games !! WTF ?!

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Reply 28 of 173, by will1384

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I had got this :

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TNZP9G3

because there was a review saying that someone was able to see a BIOS screen with it, but no it does not work with DOS and BIOS screen on older computers.

I need to find something "reasonable" priced that works, unfortunately it seems like everything that people recommend is ether no longer being sold or costs more than $100.

Reply 29 of 173, by darry

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will1384 wrote on 2020-05-29, 00:53:
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I had got this :

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TNZP9G3

because there was a review saying that someone was able to see a BIOS screen with it, but no it does not work with DOS and BIOS screen on older computers.

I need to find something "reasonable" priced that works, unfortunately it seems like everything that people recommend is ether no longer being sold or costs more than $100.

Some POST and/or BIOS screens on some boards use 640x480 at 60Hz .

Reply 30 of 173, by Prez

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Pierre32 wrote on 2020-05-28, 23:47:

I can't abort! It's too late! Haha.

Mine will find use either way and it'll be interesting to see how it compares.

Sorry ! I never thought about this laptop passing by the VGA 70hz modes, it is so strange ! Never saw that on another computer.
The good thing is this laptop might be the perfect one to play and capture MS-DOS games 😀

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Reply 31 of 173, by Prez

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Hi !
I just did receive my Extron 300A :
https://www.extron.com/product/rgbhdmi300a

And it does work very well !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMzTiwT1zIs

Still i'm waiting for some others devices to test !

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Reply 32 of 173, by darry

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Prez wrote on 2020-06-02, 21:04:
Hi ! I just did receive my Extron 300A : https://www.extron.com/product/rgbhdmi300a […]
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Hi !
I just did receive my Extron 300A :
https://www.extron.com/product/rgbhdmi300a

And it does work very well !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMzTiwT1zIs

Still i'm waiting for some others devices to test !

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Philippe Dubois

I like my Extron RGB-DVI 300 , now that it's setup properly. I have a question, though . Did you need to configure theunit manually for 720x400@70Hz and 320x200@70Hz input (was it pre-configured by the previous owner)? Auto config. did not work for me, but once I manually input values for those resolutions, everything worked perfectly

Reply 33 of 173, by Prez

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Hi !
When i got the 300A, some settings were a bit curious, the display was not exactly right.
So i did a factory reset, then select 1080P for output resolution and but HDMI data ON to have sound, with a Auto config before.
And its near perfect 😉

can you share your settings please ?

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Reply 34 of 173, by Pierre32

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My little cheapie arrived. I tested it on my 48" 4k TV. Glad to see everything display at the correct aspect ratio without having to make adjustments.

  • The image scaling does add a little softness (it would be unresonable to expect more at this price of course). It would bother me if I was sitting up close in front of a monitor, but on the TV when I'm back on the couch, it's less of an issue.
  • Feeding it from my 386 system (with Tseng ET4000AX video card) there is some noise in the black display
  • Otherwise, everything I ran under DOS displayed well. In some games there are a few pixels cut off at right or bottom.
  • It displays BIOS

I also tried it with my Windows 98 box. Similar results, but less noisy image.

Verdict: As a quick VGA to HDMI solution, this thing was $12 well spent - for TV gaming IMO. For a desktop monitor I would be a lot fussier.

I can barely read the text on the chip, but I think it is: AG02-EX 1842

Screenshot of the one I bought: https://i.imgur.com/vUimUdN.png

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Reply 35 of 173, by Prez

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Pierre32 wrote on 2020-06-03, 05:49:
My little cheapie arrived. I tested it on my 48" 4k TV. Glad to see everything display at the correct aspect ratio without havin […]
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My little cheapie arrived. I tested it on my 48" 4k TV. Glad to see everything display at the correct aspect ratio without having to make adjustments.

  • The image scaling does add a little softness (it would be unresonable to expect more at this price of course). It would bother me if I was sitting up close in front of a monitor, but on the TV when I'm back on the couch, it's less of an issue.
  • Feeding it from my 386 system (with Tseng ET4000AX video card) there is some noise in the black display
  • Otherwise, everything I ran under DOS displayed well. In some games there are a few pixels cut off at right or bottom.
  • It displays BIOS

I also tried it with my Windows 98 box. Similar results, but less noisy image.

Verdict: As a quick VGA to HDMI solution, this thing was $12 well spent - for TV gaming IMO. For a desktop monitor I would be a lot fussier.

I can barely read the text on the chip, but I think it is: AG02-EX 1842

Screenshot of the one I bought: https://i.imgur.com/vUimUdN.png

Seems nice ! So it does work on DOS mode in 70 Hz ?

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Reply 36 of 173, by Pierre32

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Prez wrote on 2020-06-03, 07:05:

Seems nice ! So it does work on DOS mode in 70 Hz ?

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I'm actually a bit ignorant when it comes to refresh rates in DOS. What's the best way for me to test this?

Reply 37 of 173, by Prez

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Pierre32 wrote on 2020-06-03, 07:49:
Prez wrote on 2020-06-03, 07:05:

Seems nice ! So it does work on DOS mode in 70 Hz ?

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Philippe Dubois

I'm actually a bit ignorant when it comes to refresh rates in DOS. What's the best way for me to test this?

If you're using a true VGA card (an ET4000 i believe ?), just launch and try to play Doom or Descent or whatever DOS game using VGA mode 😉

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Reply 39 of 173, by Prez

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Pierre32 wrote on 2020-06-03, 09:02:

Well then. Prince of Persia, Wolf3D and Wing Commander all play fine 😀

Great ! and surprising ! 😀 Thanks !

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