VOGONS


First post, by ahyeadude

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Okay, so I've got a Pentium 233 MMX Socket 7 build (parts from 97-98). I've replaced every single electrolytic capacitor at this point on the motherboard and soundcard (some leaking, some not). I have not yet touched my Riva 128ZX because the output is perfect and the tantalum caps seem fine visually. However, I've seen a lot of posts and videos of tantalum capacitors failing spectacularly and when they do, they typically fry a motherboard trace or something else adding to the damage. This ticking time-bomb is giving me anxiety and I'm finally motivated to address the potential problem.

8rmatNu.jpg
7KCLOEg.jpg

It's been a little difficult to identify the exact specifics of these capacitors, but I'm thinking the 10uF are most likely these...

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/AVX/TAZH … RekIG3yuw%3D%3D

However, I'd like to replace them with aluminum polymer caps to avoid future fireworks. These look like they should physically work, but I'm worried they are too low ESR.

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Murata-E … CvsCL7b9Q%3D%3D

Tantalum part shows an ESR of 1.4 ohm and the polymer shows an ESR of 0.04 ohm. Ripple on tantalum is 0.3 A and polymer shows 1.6 A.

Will these differences matter for this application? Has anyone gone down this path before? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Reply 1 of 6, by Byrd

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Tantalum caps from a good quality late 90's device are not going to spontaneously combust any time soon - I'm not sure why you are so anxious; caps like these are in many vintage devices you probably own and not needing replacement. In the rare event they do blow, the damage is often just around the tantalum cap footprint itself and easily replaced.

Reply 2 of 6, by matze79

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

Is this really 8Mb ? looks like 4Mb
isnt 8Mb ZX SDRAM only ?

https://www.retrokits.de - blog, retro projects, hdd clicker, diy soundcards etc
https://www.retroianer.de - german retro computer board

Reply 4 of 6, by ahyeadude

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Yea, says 8MB in the bios message at post as well as DirectX config in Windows 95. Datasheet for the memory chips show they are 2MB SGRAM.

https://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/v … 636327Q-10.html

I went ahead and ordered the aluminum poly caps, as well as a new e-cap to replace that tiny 4mm SMD one which is likely dried out. I know I am being paranoid, but these things are 22 years old at this point and I don't want to risk the destruction if one of the tants shorts out. I'll post an update once they are replaced.

Reply 5 of 6, by The Serpent Rider

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

Riva 128ZX came in 3 flavors:
4 Mb SGRAM 64-bit bus (only 2 chips on board)
8 Mb SDRAM 64-bit bus
8 Mb SGRAM 128-bit bus

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.