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First post, by Miphee

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Radeon 9600 (XT) - Geforce 9600 (GT)
Radeon 9600 (XT) - Geforce 9600 (GT)
Geforce FX5700 - Radeon RX5700
Geforce 7100 - Radeon 7100LE
Radeon 7500 - Geforce 7500LE
Geforce GTX 1050 - Radeon X1050

It's so childish and adds to the confusion, couldn't they come up with unique model names and numbers?

Reply 1 of 15, by Cyberdyne

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Thank god they are years and generations away from each other. After 386 and EGA... in reality everything with CPUs and GPUs is confusing, and you have to do some good homework, now we have Google.

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Reply 2 of 15, by Miphee

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It's like Renault coming up with a new model called Renault Mondeo or the Volkswagen group with the Lamborghini F50.
Can't believe these manufacturers couldn't find different numbers to name their products.
What's next? Ati coming up with the JForce FXUltraXT2080TiOC?

Reply 3 of 15, by imi

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Miphee wrote on 2020-09-10, 10:07:

It's so childish and adds to the confusion, couldn't they come up with unique model names and numbers?

well there are only so many numbers for cool names, I'm glad tbh... otherwise it ends like intel and you get product names like "Intel 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake i3-1115G4" that literally don't tell you anything ^^

Reply 6 of 15, by cyclone3d

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You think those are confusing... go back and take a look at the Zoltrix and Gallant sound card names.... different cards with the same model number.... grrrrrrr

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Reply 8 of 15, by Miphee

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Thanks guys, I guess I could have fit this in the Collecting rants topic.
I just saw a Radeon X5700 and immediately thought about the FX5700 that I hated, especially the "optimized" drivers for 3DMark.
Sometimes it's detrimental to use another manufacturer's product name and the FX series is a good example.
Manufacturers should stop using numbers and start getting creative with new hardware naming.

Reply 10 of 15, by shamino

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imi wrote on 2020-09-10, 16:00:

I haven't seen too many SB boxes, but did creative actually tell you which card you would get if you bought an "AWE32" for example? ^^

I don't think so. I bought an AWE32 at Best Buy back then which turned out to be a CT3990 but I don't think that was marked on the box anywhere. I certainly didn't see it anyway.
I remember comparing it to a cheaper AWE32 (it might have just been a "Sound Blaster 32") trying to figure out what the difference was. I couldn't figure it out so I bought the more expensive one anyway because surely it "must" be better somehow.
Now I think the only difference was that ADPCM feature that nobody ever used. I did use it a little bit but not enough to justify paying for it.

I still have my old box from a Sound Blaster Pro (CT1330A). I don't think the card's model number is on that box either.

Reply 11 of 15, by shamino

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NVidia and ATI both had the same problem and for better or worse ended up using the same solution. ATI was first with the scheme and NVidia copied it not long after. Thankfully they started at totally different places in the "generation number" but they've wrapped around and overlapped.
I wonder if NVidia will start reusing their own numbers, like is there going to be a Geforce 4200 next year?

The number system wants to make sense but it's not exactly been a big success. I'm not sure how it is today, but last time I shopped for a video card, I quickly became aware that only a fool walks blindly into a store and tries to figure out what to buy based on the model numbers.
You still have to spend hours doing research in order to make the decision intelligently, so they might as well just call them any random string of letters and numbers.
They could just literally give the cards names, like "Dexter" and "Biff" and "Lando" along with a cool picture of the character on the box. Put some silkscreen artwork on the card to match. Hell, why not. Next THG thread "Wut card 4 fFortnite - Chewbacca or Bumblebee?" "Both cards suck get Rambo Ultra dude."

Reply 13 of 15, by VileR

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The "random string" methodology seems to work just fine in pharma for drug trade names.
'Radeon Zycoprexitol'? 'Geforce Avilynozepam'?

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Reply 14 of 15, by pixel_workbench

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At least they are generations apart, and the model number tells exactly what card it is. It could be worse - the card name would be "3D Blaster Annihilator" or "Viper Monster Stealth Velocity Prophet 3000" and then you try to figure out what the model actully is.

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Reply 15 of 15, by Oetker

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Maybe we'll get a system where they're just called Geforce 80, 60 etc and the generation is implicit, just like with cars, Apple computers or a lot of other products.

pixel_workbench wrote on 2020-09-11, 16:40:

At least they are generations apart, and the model number tells exactly what card it is. It could be worse - the card name would be "3D Blaster Annihilator" or "Viper Monster Stealth Velocity Prophet 3000" and then you try to figure out what the model actully is.

Good point actually, things weren't necessarily better.