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First post, by Velociraptor

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In an attempt to do the best I can to cover everything I want to check that I'm going to be broadly successful. I understand that there will always be gaps, and often it'll be good but not great.

PC 1 - XP/WIn7 with 750ti and AM3 chipset (X6@3.3)
PC 2 - WIn98SE and XP PC with 9800pro and 865 chipset (P4@3.2)
PC3 - DOS and Win98SE PC with S3 Trio and Voodoo 1 and ALi Aladdin V chipset (P233MMX)

The hope is that with each of the 3 PCs covering 2 OSs I have a bit more of a spread.

I'm hoping to cover everything from 386 up to whatever my modern PC can't manage.

Areas I'm concerned at are -
Is the 9800pro compatible enough with Win98SE games? Are there any that it can't do either in Win98 or XP that are too much for the P233MMX to do? In that case should I also try to get a PCI GPU?
Are there likely to be XP games that are too much for the P4 setup but too old for the 750ti setup?
Should I be considering a Voodoo Banshee for DOS instead of the S3 and Vooodoo1?

I will also have an AGP FX5500, a Rage 128, and a few others that I don't expect to be helpful if it comes to it that there's a game I just can't get going. It's not ideal to be swapping cards in and out but if I really want to...

A pitfall I'm trying to avoid is trying to create the best system for x OS. I think that's where prices and availability are stretched so I've tried to go for setups that bridge across two OSs, but to come at it from both directions so that hopefully there's overlap enough.

Reply 1 of 8, by Joseph_Joestar

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Velociraptor wrote on 2020-12-17, 16:27:

Is the 9800pro compatible enough with Win98SE games? Are there any that it can't do either in Win98 or XP that are too much for the P233MMX to do? In that case should I also try to get a PCI GPU?

The 9800pro can't do palleted textures and table fog. A Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 can. It will also allow you to play the early Splinter Cell games without shadow glitches. Newer cards have issues with that.

Should I be considering a Voodoo Banshee for DOS instead of the S3 and Vooodoo1?

If you want to play DOS Glide games, keep the Voodoo 1. Banshee and later Voodoo cards are less compatible with those. See here: Voodoo 2 DOS Glide compatibility matrix

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 3 of 8, by Velociraptor

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I've made adjustments...... and here is where I think I am now.
PC1 - AMD Phenom II X6 1100t, 750ti, Windows XP and Windows 7
PC2 - Socket 478 P4@3.2 800FSB,1mb cache, Radeon HD3650 865PE chipset Windows XP and Win98SE
PC3 - Slot 1 P3@600, Geforce FX5200 , 440BX chipset, Win98SE (DOS could be done if PC4 can't manage something)
PC4 - P1MMX@233, S3 Trio64, Voodoo1 DOS and Win98SE

I'm aware the FX series wasn't well received, and that the 5200 isn't a particularly powerful part of it. However I've looked at older Geforce cards and the 5200 seems to be roughly in line with the Geforce3 ti200. Since I already have the FX5200 it seems worthwhile keeping it rather than replacing it with another Geforce of some kind.

Reply 6 of 8, by Joseph_Joestar

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Velociraptor wrote on 2020-12-21, 16:10:

PC4 is for DOS and I hope/expect to be able to use command line programs to disable cache etc to have it run at 386, 486 or pentium speeds.

That's pretty much a perfect DOS rig, and it should work very well with SetMul for slowdown purposes.

Check this video by Phil for more details.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 8 of 8, by Putas

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Velociraptor wrote on 2020-12-21, 16:10:

PC4 is for DOS and I hope/expect to be able to use command line programs to disable cache etc to have it run at 386, 486 or pentium speeds. I can't do that with 440BX.

You can disable the cache though. Underclock, as well as use slow down programs and so on.