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First post, by Sphere478

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Is there a definitive list somewhere?

I see there is a quadro nvs 280 which is basically a fx5500 was there a 6000 series counterpart in pci also?

what about fire gl anything in pci between 7000 and x000 series counterparts?

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Reply 1 of 10, by aaronkatrini

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I don't know if you've checked on wikipedia...However here are some useful links with decent information:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_gra … s#FireGL_series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_ … orkstation_GPUs

Check under BUS INTERFACE column 😀

Reply 2 of 10, by Sphere478

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aaronkatrini wrote on 2021-03-28, 18:09:
I don't know if you've checked on wikipedia...However here are some useful links with decent information: […]
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I don't know if you've checked on wikipedia...However here are some useful links with decent information:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_gra … s#FireGL_series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_ … orkstation_GPUs

Check under BUS INTERFACE column 😀

Sweet!!

Okay, this has my interest...

Is this a dual x600 gpu card? Or is one of those heat sinks for the ram?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/firemv-2400-pci.c2439

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Reply 3 of 10, by Sphere478

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This also is kinda cool!

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro4 … 0-nvs-pci.c1459

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Reply 4 of 10, by aaronkatrini

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I've had the Nvidia one with dual gpu... yeah cool in theory, but the performance in games was horrible, ended up selling it.
Also these dual chip cards have that awful DMS-59 connector that you need to have an adapter to split into two VGA or DVI outputs.
I'd stay far away from those dual chip cards!

Reply 5 of 10, by Jackal1983

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Sphere478 wrote on 2021-03-29, 07:51:

I actually just bought one of those (15 bucks, waay cheaper than the other NV17 based PCI Quadros) so worth trying). My understanding though is it's more like 2 GF4MX-440 cards attached to a single PCI slot via a PLX chip, so no SLI goodness. The plan is to just disable one of the GPUs in Device manager and use it like a single PCI GF4MX-440 card and just ignore the other one. I might look into modding the bios to disable one of the chips on a lower level.

Reply 6 of 10, by cyclone3d

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The Quadro FX 600 PCI is more like the FX 5500 than the Quadro NVS 280 is. The FX 600 PCI has 128MB RAM instead of only 64MB RAM

Heh... I just realized that the FX 5200 Ultra is clocked a lot faster than the FX 5500... Interesting.

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Reply 7 of 10, by Sphere478

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aaronkatrini wrote on 2021-03-29, 10:56:

I've had the Nvidia one with dual gpu... yeah cool in theory, but the performance in games was horrible, ended up selling it.
Also these dual chip cards have that awful DMS-59 connector that you need to have an adapter to split into two VGA or DVI outputs.
I'd stay far away from those dual chip cards!

Yeah, I was thinking that would be the case with the dual geforce 4 card

I actually have a dms60/59 to hdmi and dvi so I’m all set

Jackal1983 wrote on 2021-03-29, 14:20:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-03-29, 07:51:

I actually just bought one of those (15 bucks, waay cheaper than the other NV17 based PCI Quadros) so worth trying). My understanding though is it's more like 2 GF4MX-440 cards attached to a single PCI slot via a PLX chip, so no SLI goodness. The plan is to just disable one of the GPUs in Device manager and use it like a single PCI GF4MX-440 card and just ignore the other one. I might look into modding the bios to disable one of the chips on a lower level.

That makes sense. I wonder if there is a way to just make it act like you installed two cards I mean games would just work like one was installed anyway if no sli sorcery was going on...?

cyclone3d wrote on 2021-03-29, 14:51:

The Quadro FX 600 PCI is more like the FX 5500 than the Quadro NVS 280 is. The FX 600 PCI has 128MB RAM instead of only 64MB RAM

Heh... I just realized that the FX 5200 Ultra is clocked a lot faster than the FX 5500... Interesting.

My research seems to say it’s basically a geforce 4? Was that the previous generation? Is that why it is more similar is that what you are saying? I’m not up on what nvidia was doing on those generations

It seems it’s 64mb per gpu. So that would kinda be the same

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Reply 8 of 10, by Jackal1983

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Sphere478 wrote on 2021-03-29, 19:15:
Jackal1983 wrote on 2021-03-29, 14:20:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-03-29, 07:51:

I actually just bought one of those (15 bucks, waay cheaper than the other NV17 based PCI Quadros) so worth trying). My understanding though is it's more like 2 GF4MX-440 cards attached to a single PCI slot via a PLX chip, so no SLI goodness. The plan is to just disable one of the GPUs in Device manager and use it like a single PCI GF4MX-440 card and just ignore the other one. I might look into modding the bios to disable one of the chips on a lower level.

That makes sense. I wonder if there is a way to just make it act like you installed two cards I mean games would just work like one was installed anyway if no sli sorcery was going on...?

When you load regular Detonator drivers that's more or less how it works regardless. The PLX chip does all of the heavy lifting apparently. By disabling one of the GPUs either in device manager or in a modded bios you'd hopefully maximize the PCI bandwidth going to the GPU you are using. Yeah, it'd be better to just use a NVS 100 (64 bit bus but has DDR ram so more or less equivalent to a GF4MX 420) or some other PCI based NV17 card, but those are all hard to come by/expensive. Hell it might be worth it to figure out which MOSFET on the card powers which GPU: it might be worth it to desolder one of them and disable one of them in a more concrete (but reversible) manner!

Reply 9 of 10, by cyclone3d

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Sphere478 wrote on 2021-03-29, 19:15:
Yeah, I was thinking that would be the case with the dual geforce 4 card […]
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aaronkatrini wrote on 2021-03-29, 10:56:

I've had the Nvidia one with dual gpu... yeah cool in theory, but the performance in games was horrible, ended up selling it.
Also these dual chip cards have that awful DMS-59 connector that you need to have an adapter to split into two VGA or DVI outputs.
I'd stay far away from those dual chip cards!

Yeah, I was thinking that would be the case with the dual geforce 4 card

I actually have a dms60/59 to hdmi and dvi so I’m all set

Jackal1983 wrote on 2021-03-29, 14:20:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-03-29, 07:51:

I actually just bought one of those (15 bucks, waay cheaper than the other NV17 based PCI Quadros) so worth trying). My understanding though is it's more like 2 GF4MX-440 cards attached to a single PCI slot via a PLX chip, so no SLI goodness. The plan is to just disable one of the GPUs in Device manager and use it like a single PCI GF4MX-440 card and just ignore the other one. I might look into modding the bios to disable one of the chips on a lower level.

That makes sense. I wonder if there is a way to just make it act like you installed two cards I mean games would just work like one was installed anyway if no sli sorcery was going on...?

cyclone3d wrote on 2021-03-29, 14:51:

The Quadro FX 600 PCI is more like the FX 5500 than the Quadro NVS 280 is. The FX 600 PCI has 128MB RAM instead of only 64MB RAM

Heh... I just realized that the FX 5200 Ultra is clocked a lot faster than the FX 5500... Interesting.

My research seems to say it’s basically a geforce 4? Was that the previous generation? Is that why it is more similar is that what you are saying? I’m not up on what nvidia was doing on those generations

It seems it’s 64mb per gpu. So that would kinda be the same

Techpowerup is great for looking up different chips:
NV34 which has the Quadro FX 600 PCI and the Quadro NVS 280 AGP as well as different variations of the Geforce FX 5200
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-nv34.g21

NV34B which has the Quadro NVS 280 PCI and the Geforce FX 5500 and different Geforce FX 5200.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-nv34b.g682

I was looking at the FX5500 with 128MB and 256MB. Didn't realize that the regular 5500 only has 64MB.

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Reply 10 of 10, by Sphere478

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Got them!!

But the ports are damaged 🙁

Believe it or not each one has two gpus and the gpu package has four ram chips on the package not on the card but on the gpu interposer package it’s self

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Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)