First post, by acl
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Hello
Halloween passed, but a dark and evil creature, laying on my desk was still haunting me. Half Radeon 9700Pro, half Radeon 9800Pro. The Frankenstein of graphic cards 🧟.
I honestly couldn't sleep last night. Not because of the Frankenstein thing, but looking for online info about my card.
I recently bought it from a local individual. 10 min from home. He was listing it as a 9700Pro. This caught my attention. But looking at the card itself, it doesn't looked like a 9700Pro.
Pict 1. My card with cooling mounted
For comparison : VGA Museum 9800Pro VS VGA Museum 9700Pro
- ✅ Cooling system looks like a 9700Pro
- ❌ Molex connector instead of "floppy" connector looks like a 9800Pro
- ❌ PCB Layout looks like a 9800Pro
- ❌ PN 109-A07500 refers to 9800Pro online
Of course, the back of the card was of no help to identify it (or at least, i could not find any match online) :
So just by looking at the card before buying it, i informed the seller that it could probably be a 9800Pro. (i still was interested). I bought it, and stored it in a box for a few weeks.
Yesterday, i picked all the cards i recently got to clean and test them (A few GPUs, sound cards and network controllers).
But removing the cooling and thermal paste revealed the truth.
Pict 2. Card with removed cooling. Cleaned thermal paste.
R300 ! WTF ? I've never seen this layout. The big molex connector.
To be sure, i plugged the card into a computer. Unfortunately, the only AGP machine i had ready (At 2:00 AM) was a Windows 98SE. So no GPU-Z. Only Everest and Sisoft Sandra.
The card reported itself as 9700Pro. By both tools. The Win 9X driver from AMD website picked the card without any problems.
I completely forgot to take screenshots (but i will update the thread with them). I will try to run everything under Win XP to have access to better and more recent tools.
GPU and memory frequencies matched the 9700Pro stock values.
With Everest and Sandra, another thing reported was strange. While the GPU was reported as R300 (just like expected looking at the chip), the VGA Bios (if i remember well) reported R350 (9800Pro codename). So there is probably a kind of mix between the two cards.
Under the fan, i found a date. 2003. So at least, the fan is from 2003. So it is not an early 9700Pro from 2002. So i tend to think that it could be a late model. Manufactured after the 9800Pro design. Using the new PCB and the "old" R300 chips.
What do you think ?
Thank you very much and have a nice day !
Edit 1: Added PN 109-A07500 thing
Edit 2 : Added info about GPU/mem freq.
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