biessea wrote on 2022-06-20, 11:48:

...but I'm quite annoyed for the viewing dimension. I always loved the big screen, and I don't want to take this monitor and remain sad.

Are you saying you'll be sad because the Eizo is smaller in size..? I'd take a smaller CRT with better image quality any day. Most consumer CRTs had such poor image quality that you bought a big one just to be able to read the damn text at a higher resolution.

...or to put it another way, I think having a 19" CRT and having to bring the resolution down to 1024x768 or 800x600 is a travesty. Of course your video card will also play a part in how good the image on the monitor will be. You'll want to steer clear of some cheaper cards with bad analog output quality.

Eizo is legendary, but I would still want to see the tube with my own eyes before coughing up $100, just to make sure it hasn't been abused.

leonardo wrote on 2022-06-20, 20:56:

Are you saying you'll be sad because the Eizo is smaller in size..? I'd take a smaller CRT with better image quality any day. Mo […]
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biessea wrote on 2022-06-20, 11:48:

...but I'm quite annoyed for the viewing dimension. I always loved the big screen, and I don't want to take this monitor and remain sad.

Are you saying you'll be sad because the Eizo is smaller in size..? I'd take a smaller CRT with better image quality any day. Most consumer CRTs had such poor image quality that you bought a big one just to be able to read the damn text at a higher resolution.

...or to put it another way, I think having a 19" CRT and having to bring the resolution down to 1024x768 or 800x600 is a travesty. Of course your video card will also play a part in how good the image on the monitor will be. You'll want to steer clear of some cheaper cards with bad analog output quality.

Eizo is legendary, but I would still want to see the tube with my own eyes before coughing up $100, just to make sure it hasn't been abused.

Understood thanks.

I will use the tube with a Creative Banshee mainly..

I have to prefer connecting the tube through the RGB cable? (or something like that, I show you that cable in attachment).

The user say the monitor is in mint state and it's used very few.
I have various photos bout it, I put here se you can see and advice me better.

I own an Eizo T766, basically a bigger and younger nephew of this monitor. I think they are awesome displays. It doesn't really matter what kind of connection you use, both will be fine. The monitor looks really good on these photos, but leonardo is right, for 100 bucks you should see it running from a cold start to make sure it's fine.

chrismes wrote on 2022-06-22, 10:20:

I own an Eizo T766, basically a bigger and younger nephew of this monitor. I think they are awesome displays. It doesn't really matter what kind of connection you use, both will be fine. The monitor looks really good on these photos, but leonardo is right, for 100 bucks you should see it running from a cold start to make sure it's fine.

Hey there, here I am..

I decided to spend that 100bucks and bought it!

This evening I will have time to try it, or perhaps tomorrow. I am so excited.
I was thinking to put the Viewsonic G90f+ and the Eizo next and see the different image quality with a Matrom G400 Dual Head.
What do you think?

I put on attachment the monitor as I have it just now!

higher scan rates better view quality like 85 to 100 Hz modes good for eye sight 🤣

biessea wrote on 2022-06-23, 10:38:

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chrismes wrote on 2022-06-22, 10:20:

I own an Eizo T766, basically a bigger and younger nephew of this monitor. I think they are awesome displays. It doesn't really matter what kind of connection you use, both will be fine. The monitor looks really good on these photos, but leonardo is right, for 100 bucks you should see it running from a cold start to make sure it's fine.

Hey there, here I am..

I decided to spend that 100bucks and bought it!

This evening I will have time to try it, or perhaps tomorrow. I am so excited.
I was thinking to put the Viewsonic G90f+ and the Eizo next and see the different image quality with a Matrom G400 Dual Head.
What do you think?

I put on attachment the monitor as I have it just now!

No risk, no fun. Good luck with this one, I hope the tube is still decent. Comparing the two with a dual head card sounds like a good idea, looking forward to your results.

chrismes wrote on 2022-06-23, 10:59:

biessea wrote on 2022-06-23, 10:38:

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chrismes wrote on 2022-06-22, 10:20:

I own an Eizo T766, basically a bigger and younger nephew of this monitor. I think they are awesome displays. It doesn't really matter what kind of connection you use, both will be fine. The monitor looks really good on these photos, but leonardo is right, for 100 bucks you should see it running from a cold start to make sure it's fine.

Hey there, here I am..

I decided to spend that 100bucks and bought it!

This evening I will have time to try it, or perhaps tomorrow. I am so excited.
I was thinking to put the Viewsonic G90f+ and the Eizo next and see the different image quality with a Matrom G400 Dual Head.
What do you think?

I put on attachment the monitor as I have it just now!

No risk, no fun. Good luck with this one, I hope the tube is still decent. Comparing the two with a dual head card sounds like a good idea, looking forward to your results.

...and if you do detect a difference between the monitors, also be sure to swap between the outputs to rule out any differences between them (although, with Matrox the secondary output is supposed to be just as good as the primary).

Take some pics of that beauty running some dos games please!

buckeye wrote on 2022-06-23, 17:40:

Take some pics of that beauty running some dos games please!

I will do Tomorrow! I promise! 😀

Uff, I think I got a not so-good monitor.

I tried for two days, with different systems (radeon 9100 and matrox g400) and in Windows 98se ambient, when I go over 1024x768 I find the fonts little blurry, not so sharp like I was expecting for a monitor of that importance.

What can be the problem? Simply the 20 years old normal degrading?

Or can I try to do something to make better viewing quality?

Tell me please, I'm quite disappointed.

The user that sold me the CRT are disappointed too cause he said that the monitor had always a great quality of image.

Viewsonic is not that that good quality.

Eizo tend to be ok if model is quality specific.

Keep looking. PS: Try to get monitor with .28mm dot pitch, they tend to be good looking but it depends on CRT quality, motherboard in it quality and how much age on CRT's.
The ones that is consistent tend to be brand like Samsung, NEC, not Sony.

How does it look at 640x480, 800x600, both at 75Hz, 6oHz?

Cheers,

biessea wrote on 2022-06-26, 14:58:

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Uff, I think I got a not so-good monitor.

I tried for two days, with different systems (radeon 9100 and matrox g400) and in Windows 98se ambient, when I go over 1024x768 I find the fonts little blurry, not so sharp like I was expecting for a monitor of that importance.

What can be the problem? Simply the 20 years old normal degrading?

Or can I try to do something to make better viewing quality?

Tell me please, I'm quite disappointed.

The user that sold me the CRT are disappointed too cause he said that the monitor had always a great quality of image.

Even the connecting cable can play into the quality of the image when you're using analogue gear. Try swapping the VGA-cable and see if that makes a difference.

Also, even some more modest monitors sometimes have many controls for the image besides the basic ones (brightness/contrast, location, width/height) that can make a huge difference for legibility with small fonts and and high-resolution viewing.

A pretty good indicator you may have such a control is if its adjustment doesn't immediately appear to do anything. I've found - for example - that the different moire adjustments don't necessarily show unless you set a solid background color or pattern, etc.

I don't recall what all of these were called, but there are some adjustments besides the ones that would be obviously labeled that can alter the perceived softness of the image. It's also a part of the pre-digital age with these things, to get the most out of them you would have to tune the monitor to the video card etc. In the era of the flatscreen, we're mostly used to doing nothing. Some professionals might do color calibration with special tools, but that's hardly what I image most Vogoners would do - be they CRT- or LCD users.

I will try to swap the vga cable with the one that I use now with my samsung 214t 4:3 lcd monitor.

This Eizo model is a professional-quality monitor, the Flexscan t57s is a sony-technology with the Mask.

This is why I was expecting great sharpness even if high resolutions.. And for now I am quite sad.

Focus voltage will drift over time and you can improve sharpness by readjusting focus pots on the flyback transformer in the monitor but how much you can improve is not probably gonna be a huge amount. It is 0.25mm dot pitch monitor and 17" which is not really a combination that lends well to crisp high resolutions.

Larger the CRT is, dot pitch is more important are because larger CRT tends to have even higher resolutions. Even on 14", .28 mm dot pitch even at low resolution looked nicer and bit sharper. It has to do with the quality of motherboard that processes the signal counts the most. Ditto to cable and to some degree video card's. I had seen large dot pitch look poorer.

I had personally seen generic monitors old and new do badly back in the day on tail end of CRT era, when I started working in 2003 at electronics repair shop back then. Even sometimes a cheap CRT looked terrible as they were reused from low spec designs or designed poorly that it actually limited the bandwidth of dot clock sent through the CRT.

Cheers,