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Reply 20 of 24, by The Serpent Rider

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386SX wrote:

some video chip might have been strictly designed for AGP so much to not work easily in a PCI bus layout without a bridge or not supposed to.

No, they don't. All AGP cards act as PCI device without GART driver (boot sequence or DOS). And only i740 really suffer from the lack of GART in OS, when it comes to 3D acceleration.
More likely, Matrox had compatibility issues with different chipsets (VIA and such), which they had to fix with PCI bridge.

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Reply 21 of 24, by 386SX

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But it doesn't directly mean the video chips themself were designed to perfectly run in a PCI bus configuration without some specific retrocompatibility work instead of a native chip that didn't need it. The G450 and G550 had these IC bridges while most PCI versions of AGP2x/4x/8x GPUs had the double Pericom input/output switch chips for example since the early R100 versions. I don't know but it'd sound uncommon they added a complex BGA IC like the PLX one only for a single chipset like VIA, considering the office configs these cards were probably oriented to. I'd not see anything wrong if those newer video chips / GPU designed and optimized around the AGP specifications might simply have problems in a native PCI shared slower scenario compared to an old native PCI video card in the same config. Just an opinion anyway.

Reply 24 of 24, by Jo22

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Hi everyone,

Just found something interesting..

Enabling higher resolutions on Matrox G200eW […]
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Enabling higher resolutions on Matrox G200eW

Recently we bought 5 DELL PowerEdge T110 servers to deploy to customers. After installing Windows XP on the PERC S100 RAID (more on that in a future post) I had to look for a driver for the graphics card. Of course you can't easily find it at Matrox's site, so I went over to DELL support and downloaded the Windows Server 2003 Matrox driver. Server 2003 and XP both being NT5 this worked like a charm, as was to be expected. There is another issue however, by default the Matrox driver supports 4:3 resolutions up to 1280x1024, but we use widescreen monitors which can do 1920x1080, and we're relying on that.

Just a week ago I was fiddling with Matrox drivers for a G450, where I had the same issue with resolutions, where the latest driver did support the correct 16:9 resolutions. When I was comparing the drivers, I noticed there's a resolution reference directly in the driver inf file. For the G200eW, this listed just a few resolutions, but for the G450 there was a long list. Changing this value to what the G450 had listed was enough to get it working, so now our G200eW can do 1920x1080 without issues. Here's the changed value for future reference:

HKR,,Mga.SingleResolutions,0x00000001,\
40,01,C8,00,40,01,F0,00,00,02,80,01,80,02,90,01,\ ; 320x 200, 320x 240, 512x 384, 640x 400
80,02,E0,01,20,03,58,02,50,03,E0,01,58,03,E0,01,\ ; 640x 480, 800x 600, 848x 480, 856x 480
60,03,E0,01,C0,03,60,09,00,04,00,02,00,04,00,03,\ ; 864x 480, 960x2400, 1024x 512, 1024x 768
00,04,00,05,00,04,00,06,30,04,58,02,80,04,60,03,\ ;1024x1280, 1024x1536, 1072x 600, 1152x 864
B0,04,40,06,00,05,D0,02,00,05,00,03,00,05,20,03,\ ;1200x1600, 1280x 720, 1280x 768, 1280x 800
00,05,C0,03,00,05,00,04,00,05,40,06,50,05,00,03,\ ;1280x 960, 1280x1024, 1280x1600, 1360x 768
58,05,00,03,60,05,00,03,78,05,1A,04,A0,05,84,03,\ ;1368x 768, 1376x 768, 1400x1050, 1440x 900
40,06,00,04,40,06,B0,04,40,06,00,05,90,06,1A,04,\ ;1600x1024, 1600x1200, 1600x1280, 1680x1050
00,07,40,05,08,07,A0,05,40,07,70,05,80,07,0A,04,\ ;1792x1344, 1800x1440, 1856x1392, 1920x1034
80,07,38,04,80,07,B0,04,80,07,A0,05,00,08,00,06 ;1920x1080, 1920x1200, 1920x1440, 2048x1536

Source: http://blog.mycroes.nl/2011/10/enabling-highe … matrox.html?m=1

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