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First post, by rain

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hi i got this card from ebay;

its procomp voodoo rush. but games working slow like captain claw or tarzan action game. is it about wrong drivers ? i cant find drivers for it . thanks for helps .

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Reply 1 of 18, by Gmlb256

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Hello.

First, the question makes little sense, you said something about wrong drivers but then you can't find them for the card. They can be found on the archived site of FalconFly. Lastly, the Voodoo Rush is way too slow for 3D games no matter which driver you'll be using, and Captain Claw is simply a 2D platform game that doesn't use any 3D hardware capabilities.

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Reply 3 of 18, by NostalgicAslinger

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Walt Disney's Tarzan is a game from 1999, so yes, the Rush is too slow for this game. Try another Voodoo Rush period correct games from 1996, maybe until 1998 (Unreal should run passable on a Rush in 512x384/Glide resolution) or upgrade to a, for example, Banshee/Voodoo2/Voodoo 3 card, if you want to play Tarzan in a good quality and speed.

Reply 4 of 18, by rain

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NostalgicAslinger wrote on 2023-01-13, 14:24:

Walt Disney's Tarzan is a game from 1999, so yes, the Rush is too slow for this game. Try another Voodoo Rush period correct games from 1996, maybe until 1998 (Unreal should run passable on a Rush in 512x384/Glide resolution) or upgrade to a, for example, Banshee/Voodoo2/Voodoo 3 card, if you want to play Tarzan in a good quality and speed.

thanks but what about Captain Claw its a 2d game but working slow with voodooo rush

Reply 5 of 18, by eddman

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No proper help can be given unless you provide exact details. What card were you using before the rush? Was the game running fine then? What are the other hardware specs; CPU model, RAM, etc? Which Windows?

Have you tried other games?

Reply 6 of 18, by rain

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eddman wrote on 2023-01-13, 14:58:

No proper help can be given unless you provide exact details. What card were you using before the rush? Was the game running fine then? What are the other hardware specs; CPU model, RAM, etc? Which Windows?

Have you tried other games?

im using s3 trio 64+ before, but it is 1 mb , voodoo rush is 6 mb so there must be difference. my pc is pentium 100 , 16 mb edo ram and using windows 98 se.

Reply 7 of 18, by NostalgicAslinger

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Also the Pentium 100 is slow, maybe the reason why Captain Claw runs so slow on your machine, because this is a 2D game with no Hardware Acceleration of the Voodoo card. Could you upgrade to a faster Socket 7 CPU, for example a Pentium MMX?

The Rush is a good partner for the P100 CPU, the Hardware Triangle Setup of the Rush is good for weak CPUs until the Pentium 100. The MX 2D core of the Rush is one of the worst on the market. I have a Rush with this chip, and it has a very bad 2D Quality. My other Rush card with the Alliance 2D Chip is much better.

I would use this machine for games until 1997, and for later games, I would use another Retro System, for example with a Pentium II/III.

You could try this driver: http://falconfly.3dfx.pl/downloads/macronix-v … ush-v10211B.zip

Reply 8 of 18, by eddman

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rain wrote on 2023-01-13, 16:19:

im using s3 trio 64+ before, but it is 1 mb , voodoo rush is 6 mb so there must be difference.

You didn't answer the question if it was slow before; I gather from your response that it was already slow and you expected the Rush card to improve it.

Well, as already stated by others, it's a 2D game and does not leverage hardware acceleration, so the card won't make a difference.

Reply 9 of 18, by Garrett W

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Pentium 100 is also pretty slow for Disney's Tarzan. Minimum system requirements state a Pentium 166 as the absolute minimum, recommending a Pentium MMX 200. In all honesty, you really need something like a Pentium II to get playable framerates. 16MB RAM and Win98SE is just asking for trouble as well, I think 24MB was the minimum for 98SE.

Reply 10 of 18, by Aebtdom

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If you want decent framerates, you really need to upgrade your CPU, going with a mmx233, but since you are using a p100 is it a socket 5 or 7 version?
Because if you have the so5, you need to upgrade your mainboard too.
In that case I would at least go for a pentium2 233 on 66mhz fsb slot1 with 64mb sdr pc100.

At least if you want to have playable framerates.
The voodoo chip on the rush, is not giving you anything on performance when the 3Dfx Glide is not used. Especially on 2d games.
You might get improvements on your p100 when you play games like GTA, Carmageddon and Turok. When running in Glide. Because only then the voodoo card will do its thing.

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Reply 11 of 18, by rain

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Aebtdom wrote on 2023-01-14, 17:02:
If you want decent framerates, you really need to upgrade your CPU, going with a mmx233, but since you are using a p100 is it a […]
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If you want decent framerates, you really need to upgrade your CPU, going with a mmx233, but since you are using a p100 is it a socket 5 or 7 version?
Because if you have the so5, you need to upgrade your mainboard too.
In that case I would at least go for a pentium2 233 on 66mhz fsb slot1 with 64mb sdr pc100.

At least if you want to have playable framerates.
The voodoo chip on the rush, is not giving you anything on performance when the 3Dfx Glide is not used. Especially on 2d games.
You might get improvements on your p100 when you play games like GTA, Carmageddon and Turok. When running in Glide. Because only then the voodoo card will do its thing.

i see but, how to run Glide?

Reply 12 of 18, by PD2JK

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Can you run the Donut Demo? You can download it from a falconfly mirror.

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Reply 14 of 18, by Aebtdom

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You can run GTA2 or need for speed 2 in windows. Its the easiest go. You can select the graphics accelerator or software mode and between those the difference should be really noticable on your p1 100mhz.

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Reply 15 of 18, by meljor

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Glide needs to be supported by the game itself.
If you have no experience with 3dfx cards then the voodoo rush is the worst card to get into this stuff as it was badly supported (needs tweaking on some games) and it was slow anyway.

The 2d chip of the cards were also bad, especially the MX. The 2d only has 2 mb as well, the other 4 mb is used by the 3dfx chip and only when the game supports 3d.

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Reply 16 of 18, by rain

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Aebtdom wrote on 2023-01-18, 18:54:

You can run GTA2 or need for speed 2 in windows. Its the easiest go. You can select the graphics accelerator or software mode and between those the difference should be really noticable on your p1 100mhz.

NFS 2 is very slow , i think im using wrong drivers?

Reply 17 of 18, by meljor

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For Glide you need to start the Glide executable instead of the normal one, Glide version should be much faster.

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Reply 18 of 18, by PD2JK

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What are the results of running that donut demo?

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