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First post, by Kordanor

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Some games have "high color" modes, like GTA 1 and Screamer 2. I am not talking about the 3dfx modes but specifically the ones with high colors.

Upon starting these with a Voodoo 3 in GTA I get a "No supported SuperVGA chip detected!".
On Screamer 2 I get a broken screen instead.

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I also found an article from the German Magazine PCJoker about Pandemonium saying that you might get the error message "No supported SuperVGA chip detected!" on the game with TNT2, Voodoo 3
oder Voodoo Banshee and then you will just be out of luck and cant run the game.

Is there really no way to fix that?
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I tried to just run the latest UniVBE driver (SciTech UNIVBE 6.7 - DOS) which will also just generate the error

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I found UNIRFRSH and VBEHZ in this thread Windows 3.11 Drivers (Voodoo3 & #9)
I ran the setup, configured my monitor, started UNIRFRSH and then VBEHZ. The only difference is then that instad of the broken screen in Screamer 2 I get a black screen

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Over here I found VESAFX18: VESA Fix Utility Listing (for old video cards)
But using it also doesnt change anything.

So is there indeed no way to fix that? Any of you got one of the two games running in high color mode on a Voodoo 3?

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Reply 2 of 9, by Kordanor

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Rawit wrote on 2023-11-23, 15:14:

That sounds like an UniVBE message. Go to: https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/

Search for Rob Muller and try the modified univbe.drv files.

Thanks you. I just tried it, but unfortunately it doesnt work.

GTA 1 does use the UNIVBE 5.3a and so I put in the right file in the folder. The game doesnt give the error anymore, but it still doesnt run. Previously it already booted in the game inconsistently on that mode, and showed a split screen. After putting the file in this happens consistently now.

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Screamer 2 on the other hand, doesnt use univbe.

Reply 3 of 9, by Gmlb256

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Have you tried running VESAFIX in conjunction with the modded drivers from Rob Muller?

BTW, the Voodoo3 doesn't support 15bpp video modes that some DOS games use. Not sure about Screamer 2 in software rendering though.

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Reply 4 of 9, by Kordanor

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2023-11-23, 15:51:

Have you tried running VESAFIX in conjunction with the modded drivers from Rob Muller?

For Screamer 2 there is no univbe, so I dont think the modded driver thing applies there. vesafix -6 keeps the beautifully colored pic in my first post

For GTA 1 the combination of both actually fixes the issue!

Reply 5 of 9, by Kordanor

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2023-11-23, 15:51:

BTW, the Voodoo3 doesn't support 15bpp video modes that some DOS games use. Not sure about Screamer 2 in software rendering though.

The mode in screamer 2 is called "High Res 65k Colors". Would that be 15bpp? Or is that something completely different?
The Low Res 65k Colors option shows the game, but its only using the upper half of the screen.
High Res 256 colors works perfectly.

Reply 6 of 9, by Gmlb256

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Kordanor wrote on 2023-11-23, 16:09:

The mode in screamer 2 is called "High Res 65k Colors". Would that be 15bpp? Or is that something completely different?

No, it is something completely different. 65K colors means 16bpp which is supported by the Voodoo3 while 15bpp means 32K colors.

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Reply 8 of 9, by Kordanor

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Thanks, will check NOLFB!

Yeah, both titles are also supporting 3DFX, but I also want to try to compare, and would like the better software version being available. Because otherwise the 3dfx version is obviously better.
Especially with modern screens 3dfx often doesnt look too great and software can look better - if you have the cpu for the frame rate.
In that regard:
GTA with 3dfx on 133Mhz -> Too fast, needs to be fps locked in game
GTA with high colors in software on 600 Mhz -> hardly playable. (maybe 15-20 fps)