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First post, by fellthrutmewarp

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16" GW2K CRT monitor - has been sitting untouched up my parents attic for ~20 years. My dad helped me carry it down tonight. I had stuck a bunch of dumb stickers on it when I was little but w/e - nostalgia. Front door won't stay closed haha

It makes a popping noise every now and then, and when it pops the screen flickers, but otherwise seems to work great 🤣. (Popping seems to have become less and less now that it has "warmed up"...)

Apparently it is 1280 x 1024 75Hz - I have a high end WinXP PC with a i7-4820K and a Radeon HD 7870, and 1280 x 1024 is the highest option I can choose in the display settings menu. I have Vsync enabled in the driver. Using Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 to test.

Upon starting the game with the "new" monitor, the NFSHP2 setting jumped back to default 800 x 600, and it ran at 75Hz locked according to fraps. Upon changing the game to 1280 x 1024 however, Vsync seems to no longer be enabled, and I have FPS counts ranging 150-300. Looks great except for the tearing. there's no Vsync setting in the game.

In the driver I originally had all the 3D settings at "default" except for Vsync which I had set to "always on". For fun I cranked ALL the settings to MAX (and I mean ALL the settings - super sampling, max AA AF, etc) and I STILL got up to 300 fps in NFHP2 with 1280 x 1024 !! (My thought process was heh - I'll throw a ton of overhead at it, that'll slow it down... but nope)

Not totally understanding why Vsync is not working at 1280 x 1024 on this monitor - with these same settings (1280 x 1024) it locks to 60fps on my mediocre-quality modern flatscreen. But I think I was using DVI in that case... Not sure if that matters...

Is there a frame limiter program that you guys can recommend? Honestly tear-free 800 x 600 looks better on this monitor locked at 75Hz than 1280 x 1024 with tearing 🤣

But anyways, just wanted to show off. Only got into this hobby somewhat recently, and this was a really fun time capsule to find. Funny too because I came VERY close to cutting the VGA cord off this years ago in preparation towards tossing it - the cord is not detachable an therefore it's really fun to trip on it while carrying the monitor. I always assumed old CRT monitors were super junk. But through a stroke of luck I never got around to chopping the cord off.

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Reply 1 of 7, by dominusprog

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Poor monitor needs some serious cleaning.

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Reply 2 of 7, by fellthrutmewarp

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Haha yeah there was like an inch of dust / dirt on it that I cleaned off before even taking this picture.

So for NFSHP2, I figured out the following for each resolution:

640 x 480 , monitor menu reports 640 x 480 60Hz , fraps 60fps locked
800 x 600 , monitor menu reports 800 x 600 75Hz , fraps 75fps locked
1024 x 768 , monitor menu reports 1024 x 768 75Hz , fraps 75fps locked
1280 x 720 , monitor menu reports 1280 x 1024 60Hz , fraps 60fps locked
1280 x 768 , monitor menu reports 1280 x 1024 60Hz , fraps 60fps locked
1280 x 800 , monitor menu reports 1280 x 1024 60Hz , fraps 60fps locked
1280 x 960 , monitor menu reports 1280 x 1024 60Hz , fraps 60fps locked
1280 x 1024 , monitor menu reports 1280 x 1024 60Hz , fraps ~150-300fps varying

So I'm guessing maybe there's a bug with the way the monitor reports it's native refresh rate to Vsync when receiving an actual 1280 x 1024 signal? No idea... The screen itself measures about 329mm x 242mm, so that's 4:3 - maybe I should just use 1024 x 768 @75Hz or 1280 x 960 @60Hz ...

Reply 3 of 7, by swaaye

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Yeah I'm thinking it's designed for 1024x768 75 Hz. Whatever the cut off for refresh rates above 60 Hz is. It might be new enough to have an EDID that you could read with a Windows utility like Everest or HWINFO.

One of my greatest regrets in life is letting my dad give away the Tandy 1000 TX. 😁

Reply 7 of 7, by jakethompson1

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fellthrutmewarp wrote on 2023-12-26, 04:45:

It makes a popping noise every now and then, and when it pops the screen flickers, but otherwise seems to work great 🤣. (Popping seems to have become less and less now that it has "warmed up"...)

I believe that is an intermittent short circuit possibly related to humidity from taking it to a cold to warm location. May want to let it rest another day or two...