Great Hierophant wrote:

I think this subforum should be maintained for individuals struggling to get games working outside of emulation like DOSBox and PCem.

This, or if not at least change the DOS forum description to make it clear that it's for modern hardware only!

bjt wrote:

Great Hierophant wrote:

I think this subforum should be maintained for individuals struggling to get games working outside of emulation like DOSBox and PCem.

This, or if not at least change the DOS forum description to make it clear that it's for modern hardware only!

We'd need a definition of modern too. Windows XP is a 15 year old OS, and I wouldn't call any CPU architecture before Nehalem modern. At 8 years old, you could argue that even including that is somewhat generous.

Q : Hey I'm trying to run *DOS GAME* on my windows/linux/mac pc and it doesn't run, help!
A : Use DOSBOX.

Q : Hey I'm trying to run *DOS GAME* on my dedicated DOS pc and the game doesn't run, help!
A : We'd need exact specs as to determine whether or not you are allowed to ask this question here, is your pc older than 7.53324 years? then you're a dirty retro hardware user, off to Marvin with you!

Q : Hey I'm trying to run *DOS GAME* on my super duper fast 2016 pc that I just bought in the store and formatted just so I could put DOS 6.22 on it and the game doesn't run.
A : WELCOME TO THE RIGHT THREAD!

I agree. I was thrown quite hard with this. I honestly missed the Marvin section when I was new, so I posted here with my hardware issue, my mistake tbh there, but that's stupid is this doesn't say DOS games on modern systems, this just says DOS games, no DOSBox, likewise Marvin says Hardware, and nothing about software.

While x64 machines can still run all the DOS stuff, and dualbooting is possible, I've never seen someone dual boot windows 7/8/10 and a DOS.

We know. However, the sites name is VOGONS (Very Old Games on New Systems). It's original purpose was making newer operating systems compatible. Marvin just kind-of got added on over time when retro hardware got more popular. The labeling is from that earlier time.

gdjacobs wrote:

We know. However, the sites name is VOGONS (Very Old Games on New Systems). It's original purpose was making newer operating systems compatible. Marvin just kind-of got added on over time when retro hardware got more popular. The labeling is from that earlier time.

Then surely it should either be changed or taken literally, so that people aren't required to know unwritten rules from over a decade ago. I'm sorry, but I just don't understand the resistance from some to embracing the fact that this site, and this section in particular, have outgrown their original purposes. The idea that questions about running DOS programs are fine in this section, provided people adopt a "don't ask, don't tell" policy with regards to the hardware they're using, seems ludicrous.

This site is an excellent resource, but I can't see how having boards with unwritten purposes/rules, or multiple boards with potentially overlapping topics (if questions about running DOS on virtual machines are allowed in this section as well as PC Emulation, for example), are supposed to help anyone.

While I personally agree with you, I'm not someone that can make it happen! I just wanted to give you a heads up.

It does not matter what anyone else wants, it is what Qbix says.

collector wrote:

It does not matter what anyone else wants, it is what Qbix says.

That doesn't mean we can't make our opinions known and try to change his mind.