Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Getting old DOS games working. (DOSBox topics belong in DOSBox areas below, not here).

Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby STX » 2018-3-06 @ 04:58

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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Stretch » 2018-3-06 @ 12:35

Parsing the IBM R****p cue sheets with the files containing 'TRACK 02 AUDIO' in filenames with USA in the name, yields 637 results, but many are revisions of the same game.
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby IAmJefferson » 2018-3-06 @ 20:58

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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby schmatzler » 2018-3-06 @ 20:59

Gex 3D: Enter the Gecko uses CD audio.

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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Karm » 2018-5-03 @ 11:48

Could someone please create a complete list at the beginning of this thread?
What is considered old? Which time period?

I'm not sure if they have been mentioned:

DOS:
Lost in Time (mixed with the Speech)
Earthwom Jim 2 (1 was mentioned I guess?)
Realms of Arkania 1-3 (SC-55/88)
Tomb Raider (Original)
Worms Reunited (Worms 1 probably as well)
Quake
Fugger II (Is there an english Version of this game?)
Prototype (really great music, never played the game)
On the Ball: World Cup Edition
Grand Theft Auto
The Clue! (Just the voice)

Win95:
Micro Machines V3
Might and Magic 6
Jedi Knight (?) (played the demo and forgot to switch the cd from time to time)
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby leileilol » 2018-5-04 @ 00:25

Too numerous to list.
Voodoo2s aren't 100mhz stock
Geforce256 isn't released as a beta on New Years '99 under the Quadro brand
386DX vs SX isn't about a missing FPU
DOS gaming isn't a bilinear 320x200 16:10
DOS PCs aren't better than the Macintosh
Old PCs aren't 'aesthetic'
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Marek » 2018-5-04 @ 23:03

Karm wrote:What is considered old? Which time period?
Probably any game with CD Audio would be considered old. They became rather rare with stronger PCs capable of decoding MP3 and similar codecs with minimal CPU time on the fly. Then they died out completely when download games took off. Thus games with CD Audio are old already.
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby krcroft » 2018-5-19 @ 00:06

Downloaded the cue sheets for the IBM PC compatible series from ReDump, thanks to Stetch.
Edit 1: Flagged those games using pre-emphasis based on those CUE's that contain the flag PRE. Thanks to notindeed.
Edit 2: Pending removal or flagging of games using fake audio as part of a copy-protection scheme. Thanks to Marek and notindeed.

Code: Select all
grep 'TRACK 02 AUDIO' *.cue | grep -v 'France\|Germany\|Russia\|Japan\|Netherlands\|Sweden\|Poland\|Scandinavia' | sed 's/(.*//' | sort -u


Results:

    20 Mega Games
    3D Lemmings (pre-emphasis)
    3-D Ultra Minigolf
    3-D Ultra Pinball - Creep Night
    3-D Ultra Radio Control Racers
    3-D Ultra Traintown
    4x4 Evo
    50 PC CD-ROM Games
    5 of the Best from Kalisto
    7th Guest, The
    Actua Pool
    Addiction Pinball
    Adrenix
    Adventures with Barbie - Ocean Discovery
    AEGIS - Guardian of the Fleet
    Aesop's Fable - The Tortoise and the Hare
    Agent Armstrong
    Age of Empires
    Age of Empires - Gold Edition
    Age of Empires II - The Age of Kings
    Age of Empires II - The Conquerors Expansion
    Age of Empires - The Rise of Rome Expansion (pre-emphasis)
    Agile Warrior - F-111X
    Alien Anarchy
    Alien Logic
    Aliens Versus Predator
    Alien Trilogy
    Allegiance
    All New World of Lemmings
    Alone in the Dark
    Alone in the Dark 2 (pre-emphasis)
    Alone in the Dark 3
    Al Unser Jr. Arcade Racing
    Amok
    Angst - Rahz's Revenge
    Apollo Four Forty - Carrera Rapida - Theme from Rapid Racer
    Arcade Pool & Overdrive
    Arcangel - The Legacy of Peace
    Ares Rising
    Assault Rigs (pre-emphasis)
    Asterix & Obelix Take On Caesar
    Asteroids
    Astro Assembler
    Axelerator
    B-17 Flying Fortress - The Mighty 8th
    Baku Baku
    Bang! Gunship Elite
    Barbie as Princess Bride
    Barbie as Sleeping Beauty
    Barbie - Super Sports CD-ROM
    Batman Forever
    Batman Forever - The Arcade Game
    Battle Arena Toshinden
    Battle Chess
    Battle Isle 2
    Battlezone
    Battlezone II - Combat Commander
    BC Racers
    Beam Breakers
    Beasts and Bumpkins
    Beast Wars - Transformers
    Bedlam
    Betrayal at Krondor
    Beyond Pearl Harbor - Pacific Warriors
    BFRIS - Zero Gravity Fighter Combat
    Big Red Adventure, The
    Big Red Racing
    Blackthorne
    Blade Warrior
    Blam! Machinehead
    Blaster! (pre-emphasis)
    Blood
    Boards and Blades 2
    Boggle
    Braveheart
    Brave Soul
    BreakNeck
    Breakout
    Bug!
    Buggy
    Bugriders - The Race of Kings
    Bug Too!
    Cabela's 4x4 Off-Road Adventure
    Campaign
    Cap'n Crunch's Crunchling Adventure
    Carmageddon
    Carmageddon 2 - Carpocalypse Now
    Carmageddon 3 - TDR 2000
    Carmageddon - High Octane
    Carmageddon II - Carpocalypse Now
    Carmageddon - Splat Pack
    Carmageddon TDR 2000
    CART Precision Racing (pre-emphasis)
    Castrol Honda Superbike 2000
    Centipede
    Chaos Engine, The
    Chaos Overlords - Strategic Gang Warfare
    Chasm - The Rift
    Chronicles of the Sword
    CIA Operative - Solo Missions
    C.I.T.Y. 2000
    Civilization - Call to Power
    Civilization II - Multiplayer Gold Edition
    Civilization II - Test of Time
    Cluedo - Murder at Blackwell Grange
    Clue - Murder at Boddy Mansion
    Codename Eagle
    Codename - Outbreak
    Combat Classics 3
    Command & Conquer - Red Alert - Counterstrike
    Command & Conquer - Red Alert - The Aftermath
    Command & Conquer - The Covert Operations
    Commandos - Behind Enemy Lines
    Commandos - Beyond the Call of Duty
    Conquest Earth - First Encounter
    Corridor 7 - Alien Invasion
    Cossacks - Back to War
    Cossacks - European Wars
    Cossacks - The Art of War
    Creature Shock
    Croc - Legend of the Gobbos
    CyberGladiators
    CyberSpeed (pre-emphasis)
    CyClones (pre-emphasis)
    Darius Gaiden
    Dark Colony
    Dark Colony - The Council Wars
    Dark Project - L'Ombra del Ladro
    Dark Reign 2
    Dark Reign Expansion - Rise of the Shadowhand
    Dark Reign - The Future of War
    Davis Cup Complete Tennis
    Daytona USA
    Daytona USA Deluxe
    Daytona USA Deluxe Special Edition
    Deadly Tide
    Dead Reckoning
    DeathDrome
    Defcon 5
    Descent I and II - The Definitive Collection
    Descent II (pre-emphasis)
    Descent II - Destination Quartzon
    Descent II - Destination Quartzon 3D
    Descent II - The Vertigo Series
    Destruction Derby (pre-emphasis)
    Destruction Derby 2
    Detective Barbie - Mystery of the Carnival Caper
    Dethkarz
    Deus
    Devil Inside, The
    Die Hard Trilogy
    Dink Smallwood
    Dionakra
    Disney's Hercules Action Game
    Dominion - Storm over Gift 3
    Donald in Cold Shadow
    Double Agent
    Doushin - Same Heart
    Downtown Run
    Drakan - Order of the Flame
    Drascula - The Vampire Strikes Back
    Dreams to Reality
    Driver
    Driver's Education '99
    Driver - You Are the Wheelman
    Druid - Daemons of the Mind
    Duke Nukem 3D
    Duke Nukem 3D - Atomic Edition
    Duke Nukem 3D - Plutonium Pak
    Dungeon Keeper
    Dungeon Keeper - Gold Edition
    Earth 2140
    EarthSiege 2 (pre-emphasis)
    Earthworm Jim
    Earthworm Jim 2
    Earthworm Jim 3D
    Earthworm Jim - Special Edition
    Eat This
    Ecco the Dolphin
    Echelon - Explore, Discover and Eliminate
    Edgar Torronteras' eXtreme Biker
    EF2000
    EF2000 v2.0
    Elder Scrolls Adventures, The - Redguard
    Elder Scrolls Legend, An - Battlespire
    Eliminator
    Emergency - Fighters for Life
    Enemy Engaged - Apache-Havoc
    Enemy Engaged - RAH-66 Comanche Versus KA-52 Hokum
    Entomorph - Plague of the Darkfall
    Eradicator
    Europa Universalis
    Even More! Incredible Machine, The
    Excessive Speed
    Exhumed
    Expert Pool
    Extractors
    Extreme Assault
    Extreme-G 2
    Extreme Mountain Biking
    Extreme PaintBrawl
    Extreme PaintBrawl 2
    Extreme Wintersports
    F-22 - Air Dominance Fighter
    Fallen Haven
    Fa Ming Gong Fang - Chong Xian Lan Hai Zhi Du De Guang Mang
    Fatal Fury 3 - Road to the Final Victory
    Fatal Racing
    Fatal Racing 3D & Actua Soccer 3D
    FIFA International Soccer
    Fifth Element, The
    Fighter Squadron - The Screamin' Demons over Europe
    Fighting Force
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Fire Fight
    Fire Wind
    Firo & Klawd
    Flintstones, The - Bedrock Bowling
    Force 21
    Formula 1
    Formula 1 97
    Formula Karts
    Forsaken
    Fortune Cookie, The
    Freddi Fish 5 - The Case of the Creature of Coral Cove
    Frogger
    Frogger 2 - Swampy's Revenge
    Front Page Sports - Ski Racing
    Fury^3
    Fuse, The
    FX Fighter
    FX Fighter Turbo
    Galaga - Destination Earth
    Gamelive PC No. 20
    Gangsters - Crimine Organizzato
    Gangsters - Organized Crime
    Garfield - Caught in the Act
    Genewars
    Gex 3D - Enter the Gecko
    Glover
    G-Nome
    Gobliiins
    Gobliins 2 - The Prince Buffoon
    Goblins 3
    Golf Resort Tycoon
    Golf Resort Tycoon II
    Gorky Zero - Beyond Honor
    GP500
    G-Police
    Grand Prix Racing 98
    Grand Theft Auto
    Grand Theft Auto - Mission Pack 1 - London 1969
    Grand Touring
    Gripped Off-Road Championship
    GT Racing 97
    Gunlok
    Gunman Chronicles
    Half-Life
    Half-Life - Blue Shift
    Half-Life - Day One
    Half-Life - Opposing Force
    Hammer of the Gods
    Hardcore 4x4
    Hard Truck
    Hardwar
    Hariboy's Quest
    Heart de Roommate
    Heavy Gear
    Heavy Gear II
    Hellbender
    Heretic II
    Heroes of Might & Magic - Millennium Edition
    Hexen - Beyond Heretic
    Hexen II
    Hexen II Mission Pack - Portal of Praevus
    Hidden Stroke II - APRM
    Hired Team - Trial Gold
    Hooligans - Storm over Europe
    Hopkins FBI
    Horde, The
    House of the Dead, The
    Humans 3 - Evolution - Lost in Time...
    Hunter Hunted
    HyperBlade
    Ian Livingstone's Deathtrap Dungeon
    Ignition
    I'm Gonna Nurse You 2 - Is the Sorority House Burning
    I'm Gonna Nurse You - Voice Plus!
    I'm Gonna Serve You 4
    Inca
    Inca II
    Incoming
    Incoming Forces
    Incredible Hulk, The - The Pantheon Saga
    Incredible Machine, The - Version 3.0 (pre-emphasis)
    Incubation - Battle Isle Phase Four
    Independence Day - The Game
    International Rally Championship
    Interplay's 10 Year Anthology - Classic Collection
    Interstate '76
    Interstate '76 - Nitro Pack
    Interstate '76 - Nitro Riders
    Interstate '82
    In the Hunt
    Iron Man & X-O Manowar in Heavy Metal
    Jet Moto
    Jewel Knights - Crusaders
    Jimmy White's 2 - Cueball
    Johnny Bazookatone
    Joint Strike Fighter
    Judge Dredd
    JumpStart Kindergarten
    Jurassic Park
    Kana - Little Sister
    Kevin Henkes's Sheila Rae, the Brave (pre-emphasis)
    Killer Loop
    Kingpin - Life of Crime
    King's Quest - Collector's Edition
    King's Quest VI - Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow (pre-emphasis)
    KKND2 - Krossfire
    Knights and Merchants - The Shattered Kingdom
    Krazy Ivan
    Kuai Di Zhai Ji Bian
    Last Bronx
    Layer Section
    L.E.D. Wars, The
    LEGO Rock Raiders
    Lemmings Chronicles, The
    Lemmings & Oh No! More Lemmings
    Lifeforce Tenka
    Little Big Adventure
    Little Big Adventure 2
    Lode Runner 2
    Lollypop
    Lomax
    Loom
    Lord of the Rings Enhanced CD-ROM, The
    Machine Hunter
    Mad Trax
    MageSlayer
    Magic Carpet 2
    Magic Carpet 2 - The Netherworlds
    Ma La Shao Mo Nu
    Malice
    Mall Tycoon
    Manhole, The
    Manic Karts
    Manx TT SuperBike
    Marc Brown's Arthur's Teacher Trouble
    Mark Schlichting's Harry and the Haunted House
    Matchbox Emergency Patrol
    Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX
    Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow
    Maximum Road Kill
    Maximum Road Race
    Mayday - Conflict Earth
    MechWarrior 2 - 31st Century Combat (pre-emphasis)
    MechWarrior 2 - Ghost Bear's Legacy
    MechWarrior 2 - Mercenaries
    MechWarrior 3
    MechWarrior 3 - Pirate's Moon
    Mega Man X3
    Mercer Mayer's Just Grandma and Me
    Mercer Mayer's Little Monster at School
    Merchant Prince II
    Messiah
    Metal Knight
    Miami Powerboat Racer
    M.I.A. - Missing in Action
    Microcosm
    Micro Machines 2 - Special Edition
    Micro Machines V3
    Microsoft Pinball Arcade
    Midnight GT - Primary Racer + Rage Rally
    Midtown Madness
    Midtown Madness 2
    Might and Magic - Clouds of Xeen (pre-emphasis)
    Might and Magic IX
    Might and Magic VII - For Blood and Honor
    Might and Magic VIII - Day of the Destroyer
    Might and Magic VI - The Mandate of Heaven
    Might and Magic - World of Xeen
    Might & Magic VIII - Day of the Destroyer
    MissionForce - CyberStorm
    Mission - Humanity
    Monkey Island Bounty Pack, The - The Secret of Monkey Island & Monkey Island 2 - LeChuck's Revenge
    Monkey Island Madness
    Monopoly Casino
    Monster Truck Madness
    Monster Truck Madness 2
    Monster Trucks
    Mortal Kombat 3
    Mortal Kombat 4
    Mortal Kombat Trilogy
    Mortyr 2093-1944
    Motocross Madness
    Motocross Mania
    MotoGP 2
    MotoGP - Ultimate Racing Technology
    Moto Racer
    Moto Racer 2
    Motorhead
    Motor Mash
    Muscle Car '76
    Mutation of J.B.
    My Friend Koo
    NASCAR Racing
    NASCAR Revolution
    NBA Action 98
    NBA Jam - Tournament Edition
    Nebula Fighter
    Necrodome
    Nerf - Arena Blast
    NetMech
    Network Q RAC Rally Championship
    Next Tetris, The
    Nightmare Creatures
    Nightmare in the Toy Factory
    No Respect
    O.D.T.
    One Unit Whole Blood
    Operation Body Count
    Operative, The - No One Lives Forever
    Oregon Trail II
    Oscar
    Outcast
    Outlaws
    Out of This World (pre-emphasis)
    Outpost
    Outwars
    Overboard!
    Pandemonium!
    Pandemonium 2
    Panzer Dragoon
    Panzer Elite
    Pearl Harbor - Zero Hour
    Perfect Pinball
    Pete Sampras Tennis 97
    Pinball Fantasies Deluxe
    Pitfall - The Mayan Adventure (pre-emphasis)
    Plane Crazy
    POD
    POD Gold
    Polaris Rebellion
    Pool Paradise
    Power Rangers Ninja Storm
    Powerslave
    Powerslide
    Pray for Death
    Private Nurse
    Project IGI
    Project I.G.I. - I'm Going In
    Project Paradise
    Pro Pinball - The Web
    Pro Pinball - Timeshock!
    Prototype
    Puzzle Bobble
    Puzzle Bobble 2
    Quake (pre-emphasis possible on sub-1.09 version CDs, see here thanks to Plasma)
    Quake II
    Quake II Mission Pack - Ground Zero
    Quake II Mission Pack - The Reckoning
    Quake Mission Pack No. 1 - Scourge of Armagon
    Quake Mission Pack No. 2 - Dissolution of Eternity
    Quake Mission Packs - No. 1 - Scourge of Armagon & No. 2 - Dissolution of Eternity
    Quarantine (pre-emphasis)
    Queen - The Eye
    Quest for Glory V - Dragon Fire
    Raiden
    Raiden II
    Railroad Tycoon II
    Rally Championship
    Rayman
    Rayman Designer
    Rayman Forever
    Rayman Gold
    RayStorm
    RC Racing
    Realms of Arkania Trilogy
    Rebel Moon Rising
    Recoil
    Red Faction
    Red Faction II
    Redline
    Redline Racer
    Redneck Rampage
    Redneck Rampage - Family Reunion
    Redneck Rampage - Possum Bayou
    Redneck Rampage Rides Again
    Redneck Rampage Rides Again - Arkansas
    Redneck Rampage - The Early Years
    Relentless - Twinsen's Adventure
    Re-Loaded
    Renegade Racers
    Requiem - Avenging Angel
    Return to Zork
    Revenant
    Re-Volt
    Revolution
    Richard Scarry's How Things Work in Busytown
    Ring Cycle (pre-emphasis)
    Ringworld - Revenge of the Patriarch
    Rise 2 - Resurrection
    Rise & Rule of Ancient Empires, The
    Rising Lands
    Rival Realms
    Road Warrior (pre-emphasis)
    Roberta Williams Anthology, The
    RoboRumble
    Rocket Jockey
    Roland Garros French Open 2000
    Rollcage
    Rollcage Stage II
    Rune - Halls of Valhalla
    S3d Game Pak
    Sacrifice
    Saga - Rage of the Vikings
    Sam & Max Hit the Road (pre-emphasis)
    Samurai Shodown II
    Sandwarriors - The Battle for the Sun Throne
    Savage Warriors (pre-emphasis)
    S.C.A.R.S.
    Scholastic's The Magic School Bus Explores Inside the Earth (pre-emphasis)
    Scholastic's The Magic School Bus Explores the Ocean (pre-emphasis)
    Scorcher
    Screamer
    Screamer 2
    Screamer Rally
    Secret of Monkey Island, The
    Sega Bass Fishing
    Sega GT
    Sega Rally 2
    Sega Rally Championship PC
    Sega Touring Car Championship
    Sega Worldwide Soccer PC
    Sensible World of Soccer '96-'97
    Sentinel Returns
    Settlers III, The
    Settlers III, The - Gold Edition
    Settlers II, The - Veni, Vidi, Vici
    Shadow Caster
    Shadow Force - Razor Unit
    Shadows of Cairn
    Shadow Warrior
    Shanghai - Second Dynasty
    Shattered Steel
    Shivers Two - Harvest of Souls
    Shrak
    Sid Meier's Civilization II
    Sid Meier's Civilization II - Fantastic Worlds
    Sid Meier's Civilization II Scenarios - Conflicts in Civilization
    Silent Thunder - A-10 Tank Killer II (pre-emphasis)
    SimIsle - Missions in the Rainforest
    Sing-Along Kids - Vol. 2
    Sinistar - Unleashed
    Snap! Pinball
    Sno-Cross Extreme
    Snowboard Racer
    SnowCross
    Snow Wave - Avalanche
    Soccer Kid
    Soldier of Fortune
    Sonic 3D Blast
    Sonic 3D - Flickies' Island
    Sonic CD
    Sonic R
    South Park
    Speedboat Attack
    Speed Demons
    Speedster
    Spider-Man
    Spike - The Hedgehog
    Sports Car GT
    Spy Fox - Operation Ozone
    SSN-21 Seawolf
    Star Command Revolution
    Stargunner
    Starsiege
    Starsiege - Tribes
    Star Trek - Armada
    Star Trek - Away Team
    Star Trek - Bridge Commander
    Star Trek - Klingon
    Star Trek Pinball
    Star Trek - The Next Generation - Klingon Honor Guard
    Star Wars - Dark Forces
    Star Wars - DroidWorks
    Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds
    Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds - Clone Campaigns
    Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds - Saga
    Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds Saga
    Star Wars - Jedi Knight - Dark Forces II
    Star Wars - Jedi Knight - Dark Forces II - Pathways to the Force
    Star Wars - Jedi Knight - Mysteries of the Sith
    Star Wars - Shadows of the Empire
    Star Wars - Shadows of the Empire - Battle of Hoth
    Star Wars - TIE Fighter - Collector's CD-ROM
    Star Wars - X-Wing - Collector's CD-ROM
    Star Wars - X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter
    Star Wars - X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter - Balance of Power
    Star Wars - X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter - The Academy
    STCC 2 - Swedish Touring Car Championship
    Steel Panthers
    Stellar 7
    Stonekeep
    Street Racer
    Style Game Magazine June 2000
    Sub Culture
    Sudden Strike
    Sudden Strike Forever
    Sudden Strike II
    Summoner
    Super Bubsy
    Super EF2000
    SuperKarts
    Super Street Fighter II Turbo
    Survival
    SWIV 3D
    Syndicate Wars
    Take No Prisoners
    Tank Racer
    Target
    Target - Pheromone
    Team F1
    Tellurian Defence
    Tempest 2000
    Terminus
    Test Drive 4
    Test Drive 4x4
    Test Drive 5
    Test Drive Off-Road
    Test Drive Off-Road 3
    TFX - Tactical Fighter eXperiment
    Thames Racer
    Theatre of Pain
    Thief - The Dark Project
    Three Kingdoms - Fate of the Dragon
    Thrust, Twist'n Turn
    Thunder Brigade
    Tigershark
    Tilt!
    Time Commando
    Time Warriors
    TOCA Touring Car Championship
    Tokimeki Check-in!
    Tom and Jerry in Fists of Furry
    Tomb Raider
    Tomb Raider Gold
    Tomb Raider II - Golden Mask
    Tomb Raider III - Adventures of Lara Croft
    Tomb Raider II - Starring Lara Croft
    Tomb Raider + Terracide
    Tomb Raider - Unfinished Business
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six - Covert Ops Essentials
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Mission Pack - Eagle Watch
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six - Rogue Spear
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six - Rogue Spear - Black Thorn
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six - Rogue Spear Mission Pack - Urban Operations
    Tom Clancy's Ruthless.com
    Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
    Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
    Total Air War
    Total Annihilation
    Total Mania
    Towers of Darkness - Heretic, Hexen & Beyond
    Toxic Bunny
    Toyland Racing
    Track Attack
    Trash It
    TrickStyle
    Tridonis
    Trolls
    Trucks
    Tuneland
    Tunguska - Legend of Faith
    Tunnel B1
    Turok 2 - Seeds of Evil
    Turok - Dinosaur Hunter
    Twinsen's Odyssey
    Twisted Metal 2
    Tzar - O Peso da Coroa
    Ultimate Body Blows
    Ultimate RPG Archives, The
    Ultimate Yahtzee
    Ultim@te Race Pro
    Uprising 2 - Lead and Destroy
    Urban Assault
    Vampire - The Masquerade - Redemption
    Vegas Games 2000
    Vigilance
    Vikings - The Strategy of Ultimate Conquest
    Virtua Cop
    Virtua Cop 2
    Virtua Fighter 2
    Virtua Fighter PC
    Virtua Fighter Remix
    Virtual Pool
    Virtual Pool 3
    Virtua Squad
    Virtua Squad 2
    Virtuoso
    Viva Football
    VR Sports Powerboat Racing
    WarBreeds
    War College, The - Universal Military Simulator 3
    WarCraft II - Beyond the Dark Portal
    WarCraft II - Tides of Darkness
    WarCraft - Orcs & Humans
    Wargame Construction Set III - Age of Rifles 1846-1905
    Wargasm
    War Gods
    Warhammer - Dark Omen
    War Inc.
    War in Heaven, The
    Warlords III - Reign of Heroes
    Warm Up!
    Warriors
    WCW Nitro
    Wetrix
    Whale's Voyage
    Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego
    Whiplash (pre-emphasis)
    Whiplash + VR Soccer '96
    Whizz
    William Shatner's Tekwar
    Wingstar
    WipEout (pre-emphasis)
    WipEout 2097
    Wipeout XL
    Witchaven
    World of Aden - Thunderscape
    World Rally Fever
    Worldwide Soccer
    Worms
    Worms 2
    Worms Reinforcements
    Worms United
    Wreckin Crew - Drive Dangerously
    WWE Raw
    WWF In Your House
    XCar - Experimental Racing
    X-Change
    X-Change 2
    X Games Pro Boarder
    Xin Yi Tian Tu Long Ji
    X-Men - Children of the Atom
    X-Men - The Ravages of Apocalypse
    XS
    You Don't Know Jack - Volume 4 - The Ride
    Ys II Eternal
    Zeitgeist
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Karm » 2018-5-27 @ 09:57

"Might and Magic - World of Xeen"
There have been audio tracks?? Really?
I'm wondering, because it is a SC-55(V1) Game and all the sounds and music are created via midi...
Would love to hear the tracks ;)

But thanks for this list :)

Edit: ...probably the voices? Forgot about them...
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby PD2JK » 2018-5-28 @ 08:43

krcroft wrote:Downloaded the cue sheets for the IBM PC compatible series from ReDump (thanks to Stetch for the pointer!)

Command & Conquer - Red Alert - The Aftermath

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Ha! As a little kid I put the CD once in a Phlips AZ-1508 radio/tape/cd player (don't know why I did that) and I was astonished! :lol:
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby krcroft » 2018-5-29 @ 01:33

Karm wrote:"Might and Magic - World of Xeen"
There have been audio tracks?? Really?
I'm wondering, because it is a SC-55(V1) Game and all the sounds and music are created via midi...
Would love to hear the tracks ;)
Edit: ...probably the voices? Forgot about them...


Found what appears to be an etensive playthrough with audio from the cdrom (playlist):

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg ... bbqPVMyAw#

I'm about to start watching it myself; :happy: definitely was an enjoyable game from my youth!
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Marek » 2018-5-30 @ 10:49

krcroft wrote:Downloaded the cue sheets for the IBM PC compatible series from ReDump (thanks to Stetch for the pointer!)
Keep in mind that quite some games had fake tracks in an attempt to prevent you from copying the discs. Those can be anything, including CD audio. However, fake tracks don't really exist on the discs, thus I wouldn't count them.
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby krcroft » 2018-5-30 @ 15:08

Marek wrote:
krcroft wrote:Downloaded the cue sheets for the IBM PC compatible series from ReDump (thanks to Stetch for the pointer!)
Keep in mind that quite some games had fake tracks in an attempt to prevent you from copying the discs. Those can be anything, including CD audio. However, fake tracks don't really exist on the discs, thus I wouldn't count them.


Indeed. In the case of the redump project (whose goal is to record the most accurate track checksums and cdrom metadata that's verified when multiple people submit the same checksums), if these fake tracks didn't exist then I'm not sure they would be dumpable or reliably produce the same checksums (if the data range was sparse).

In any case, if anyone knows of these fakes, please drop a note and I will snip them from the list to keep it accurate!
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Marek » 2018-5-30 @ 16:28

krcroft wrote:if these fake tracks didn't exist then I'm not sure they would be dumpable
They wouldn't. I guess, they would be in the cue sheet only, since they are in the TOC of the CD. A TOC that lies about the true track layout.
krcroft wrote:or reliably produce the same checksums (if the data range was sparse).
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't. There could be any garbage data coming from the CD drive and/or the ripping software from undefined sections of the CD. Different combinations of those might result in different images. The whole point was to get the drive choked on these to stop copying. So the ripping software must fill the gaps with something.

Look for copy protection data bases. I hope, some of them survived. It was years ago when I last checked them. Now that downloads are the main distribution way, CD or DVD based copy protection became a rather rare thing. Most recent games just use the same DRM as the download version, or sometimes no protection at all. Anyway, if such a database states that the CD in question is not protected, you can assume that the audio tracks are legit.
If you have the CD, ClonyXXL can help you identifying the type of copy protection it uses, if any.
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby notindeed » 2018-6-01 @ 20:49

I was about to post about not all of the games with cd audio tracks being genuine.

A good example of this that I know and have is Tomb Raider 3. Looking it up on redump shows that it is using cd lock copy protection (i hadn't heard of this before). This is interesting too because tr3 is the first game in the series not to use cd audio for cutscenes and environmental music. To be honest, when playing games like that it's waaaay better to image them and run them off of virtual drives too - the playback, especially when changing track is a lot smoother, as you can imagine.

It seems that games using cd lock tend to have 4 tracks - 1 data, 2 audio, 1 data, with a pregap of 2 seconds on the first audio track. See here

It seems Eidos liked this type of DRM in particular at one point. It's listed for thief: the dark project too. Strangely, my sold out software uk rerelease also seems to have the same 4 audio tracks for it which implies it's using the same copy protection which is odd considering they always add thier own launcher and their tr 3 release removes it.

It's funny some of the surprising games that used cd audio. The very first fifa has it - i wouldn't have bothered to check without checking this list as i'd probably never have played it again. Same for jurassic park.

It would be interesting to know if any other games apart from quake 1 use pre-emphasis on their cd audio. For that game you are basically required to rip the cd music, de-emphasise it and then make a disc image from the corrected music or just use a good sourceport (is quakespasm the authentic, good one? i can't remember - either way whatever you do, don't use glquake) with the music and forget the disc image.
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby krcroft » 2018-6-02 @ 00:06

notindeed, nice digging!

Marek, I guess these copy-protected CD's are reliably-rippable after all!

Here's a set of potential candidates that we can snip from the list.

These contain audio track 2 plus one or more subsequent data tracks (filtering script attached).
Let me know which I should remove from the original list - thanks!

Code: Select all
Commandos - Behind Enemy Lines             : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Commandos - Beyond the Call of Duty        : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Dark Project - L'Ombra del Ladro           : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Gangsters - Organized Crime                : TRACK 11 MODE1/2352
Ian Livingstone's Deathtrap Dungeon        : TRACK 17 MODE1/2352
Matchbox Emergency Patrol                  : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
Mortyr 2093-1944                           : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352, TRACK 05 MODE1/2352
MotoGP 2                                   : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
MotoGP - Ultimate Racing Technology        : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
Project I.G.I. - I'm Going In              : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Project IGI                                : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Quest for Glory V - Dragon Fire            : TRACK 19 MODE1/2352
Red Faction II                             : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
Red Faction                                : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
Settlers III, The - Gold Edition           : TRACK 14 MODE1/2352
Sinistar - Unleashed                       : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
Summoner                                   : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
Thief - The Dark Project                   : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Three Kingdoms - Fate of the Dragon        : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
Tomb Raider III - Adventures of Lara Croft : TRACK 04 MODE1/2352
WWE Raw                                    : TRACK 03 MODE1/2352
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby krcroft » 2018-6-02 @ 00:28

notindeed wrote:quake 1 use pre-emphasis on their cd audio. For that game you are basically required to rip the cd music, de-emphasise it and then make a disc image from the corrected music or just use a good sourceport (is quakespasm the authentic, good one? i can't remember - either way whatever you do, don't use glquake) with the music and forget the disc image.


Very interesting! Now I need to re-rip my images and de-emphasize.
I will likely use sox input.wav output.wav deemph

Here's the list of games using pre-emphasis as indicated by the PRE flag in the FLAGS field of the cue:
(these are now flagged in the original list)

    3D Lemmings
    Age of Empires - The Rise of Rome Expansion
    Alone in the Dark 2
    Assault Rigs
    Blaster!
    CART Precision Racing
    CyberSpeed
    CyClones
    Descent II
    Destruction Derby
    EarthSiege 2
    Incredible Machine, The - Version 3.0
    Kevin Henkes's Sheila Rae, the Brave
    King's Quest VI - Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow
    MechWarrior 2 - 31st Century Combat
    Might and Magic - Clouds of Xeen
    Out of This World
    Pitfall - The Mayan Adventure
    Quake
    Quarantine
    Ring Cycle
    Road Warrior
    Sam & Max Hit the Road
    Savage Warriors
    Scholastic's The Magic School Bus Explores Inside the Earth
    Scholastic's The Magic School Bus Explores the Ocean
    Silent Thunder - A-10 Tank Killer II
    Whiplash
    WipEout

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grep 'FLAGS.*PRE' *.cue | grep -v 'France\|Germany\|Russia\|Japan\|Netherlands\|Sweden\|Poland\|Scandinavia' | sed 's/(.*//' | sort -u
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Plasma » 2018-6-02 @ 00:37

krcroft wrote:
notindeed wrote:quake 1 use pre-emphasis on their cd audio. For that game you are basically required to rip the cd music, de-emphasise it and then make a disc image from the corrected music or just use a good sourceport (is quakespasm the authentic, good one? i can't remember - either way whatever you do, don't use glquake) with the music and forget the disc image.


Very interesting! Now I need to re-rip my images and de-emphasize.
I will likely use sox input.wav output.wav deemph


It's debatable whether the pre-emphasis flag was set correctly for Quake, see here: https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,104876.0.html
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby krcroft » 2018-6-02 @ 00:49

Plasma wrote:It's debatable whether the pre-emphasis flag was set correctly for Quake, see here: https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,104876.0.html


Thanks - I've flagged this potential discrepancy in the list.
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Re: Old games that had CD Audio tracks?

Postby Marek » 2018-6-03 @ 21:59

Plasma wrote:It's debatable whether the pre-emphasis flag was set correctly for Quake
I would be surprised if it's the only one. CD-ROM authoring was in its infancy back then, and authoring software had their quirks. In the case of GEAR in the year 1994, I know for certain. It had no control about the pre-emphasis flac, but set it without asking, except when writing a CDR in track-at-once mode (which you don't when sending an image to the factory). And that software is geared to professional pre-mastering.

So don't trust the pre-emphasis flac blindly. Take a listen with and without pre-emphasis applied and decide for yourself which one sound correct. There are also some early audio CDs sounding questionable.
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