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First post, by lackofpatience

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Hey guys,
Bit of an odd one and tried to have a quick look to see if I could find some answers to my questions.

When I was growing up, DOS was being phased out in favor of late 9X . Well at least for everything that I was being taught with.
I do have the ability to work with and use DOS, but I have the feeling I'm missing some good tricks and shortcuts.

Is there a basic few changes you guys do with a vanilla DOS install, as in perhaps long file name support, auto complete command stings etc.
As well as some useful or must have applications? I've got things like CD Rom support and Mouse support.

But I fumble around it haha,
Nothing too serious in the question really, I find it good to learn from those that know more haha.
Cheers

Reply 1 of 4, by keenmaster486

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My usual thing is my personal custom install (this is for 386+ machines):

MS-DOS 7.1

DOS folder with all the usual utilities and stuff, plus:
FDISK from FreeDOS (appears identical, but less limited than original FDISK)
JEMMEX
CTMOUSE

CONFIG.SYS with a menu containing various memory management combinations, but the default is JEMMEX since it's best for pure DOS

Plus I will usually install network drivers for whatever network card I have in the system.

PROGRAMS directory:
MTCP (absolute necessity for basic networking stuff, you can shell or FTP into other computers to do things and transfer files)
LINKS (the best DOS web browser for 386+ computers)
ARACHNE (sometimes... it's fun to play with)
MPXPLAY (a necessity for playing music or other audio files... playing MP3 files needs at least a DX4)
various other programs I might install such as MS Word 5.5, or Word Perfect 6.2, the only WYSIWYG word processor for DOS!

GAMES directory:
various games, the staples being all the Commander Keen episodes and fangames, Jazz Jackrabbit, Tyrian, Hocus Pocus, Epic Pinball

If I'm installing WFW 3.11 I'll copy over all the necessary drivers and my WFW311 directory which contains all the install files. I don't want to have to bother with swapping floppy disks. Then add an entry to the CONFIG.SYS menu for starting Windows with or without networking support.

I flermmed the plootash just like you asked.

Reply 2 of 4, by lackofpatience

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keenmaster486 wrote on 2020-05-19, 15:50:
My usual thing is my personal custom install (this is for 386+ machines): […]
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My usual thing is my personal custom install (this is for 386+ machines):

MS-DOS 7.1

DOS folder with all the usual utilities and stuff, plus:
FDISK from FreeDOS (appears identical, but less limited than original FDISK)
JEMMEX
CTMOUSE

CONFIG.SYS with a menu containing various memory management combinations, but the default is JEMMEX since it's best for pure DOS

Plus I will usually install network drivers for whatever network card I have in the system.

PROGRAMS directory:
MTCP (absolute necessity for basic networking stuff, you can shell or FTP into other computers to do things and transfer files)
LINKS (the best DOS web browser for 386+ computers)
ARACHNE (sometimes... it's fun to play with)
MPXPLAY (a necessity for playing music or other audio files... playing MP3 files needs at least a DX4)
various other programs I might install such as MS Word 5.5, or Word Perfect 6.2, the only WYSIWYG word processor for DOS!

GAMES directory:
various games, the staples being all the Commander Keen episodes and fangames, Jazz Jackrabbit, Tyrian, Hocus Pocus, Epic Pinball

If I'm installing WFW 3.11 I'll copy over all the necessary drivers and my WFW311 directory which contains all the install files. I don't want to have to bother with swapping floppy disks. Then add an entry to the CONFIG.SYS menu for starting Windows with or without networking support.

Ahh yes, DOS 7.1 I didn't think to give that one a go.
Thanks for the tips!

Reply 3 of 4, by chinny22

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Most dos tweaking "fun" is trying to free up as much conventional memory as possible, we even have a whole thread on it
Dos 6 conventional memory tricks

I mostly just loosely follow http://www.mdgx.com/mem6.htm or http://www.mdgx.com/mem7.htm

For system management I usually "cheat" and do this in windows (its about the only reason to install Win 3x anyway)
On a pre dos 7 PC I'll also have
Dosshell and Xtree Gold for system management
Dos 7's edit.com as it more then 1 file open a at a time
Norton utilities, mainly for Disk doctor and Speed disk which are better then MS versions

Reply 4 of 4, by lackofpatience

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chinny22 wrote on 2020-05-20, 10:43:
Most dos tweaking "fun" is trying to free up as much conventional memory as possible, we even have a whole thread on it Dos 6 co […]
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Most dos tweaking "fun" is trying to free up as much conventional memory as possible, we even have a whole thread on it
Dos 6 conventional memory tricks

I mostly just loosely follow http://www.mdgx.com/mem6.htm or http://www.mdgx.com/mem7.htm

For system management I usually "cheat" and do this in windows (its about the only reason to install Win 3x anyway)
On a pre dos 7 PC I'll also have
Dosshell and Xtree Gold for system management
Dos 7's edit.com as it more then 1 file open a at a time
Norton utilities, mainly for Disk doctor and Speed disk which are better then MS versions

Nice!, I like the sound of having edit.com use more than one file at once. handy when comparing config files etc.
Sounds like I've got some reading to do