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First post, by mattrock1988

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Hey guys:

I'm looking for a PCI sound card that has drivers for Windows 3.x. I have a bit of an odd setup where I am running OS/2 and Windows 3.1 on top of it. In order for me to get audio to work in Windows 3.1 however, I need drivers for the hardware. My problem is... I don't have ISA slots and I am not investing money in a new ISA compatible motherboard. Are there any PCI audio cards that have drivers for Windows 3.x?

I heard rumors that the PCI Ensoniq ES1371 supports Windows 3.1 and OS/2 just fine. Will this work or does anyone have better suggestions? for DOS games, I plan on using DOSBox for OS/2 if DOS support on the PCI card isn't great, so no worries there.

Thanks,

Matt

Last edited by mattrock1988 on 2012-11-30, 13:56. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 1 of 10, by Dominus

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I only used Windows on top of os/2 when I worked for a financial institute, so I might be wrong, but does windows in OS/2 have direct access to the hardware?

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Reply 2 of 10, by Dominus

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And I don't think there are any pci cards with win 3.11 support.
I didn't know there is dosbox for os/2

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Reply 3 of 10, by mattrock1988

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To answer your first question... yes as far as I know, Win 3.x does have direct access to the hardware. Hence why it needs drivers.

Also, I just discovered that Ensoniq did release an AudioPCI driver for Win 3.x. Whether or not it will work remains to be seen.

Yes... an OS/2 version of DOSBox does indeed exist. It's up to about version 0.72... which is pretty darn close to the latest version.

Matt

Retro PC: Intel Pentium III @ 1 GHz, Intel SE440BX-2, 32 GB IDE DOM, 384 MB SDRAM, DVD-ROM, 1.44 MB floppy, Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 AGP, Creative SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold, Aureal Vortex 2
I only rely on 86box these days. My Pentium 3 PC died. 🙁

Reply 4 of 10, by Dominus

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He he 0.72 is close in number but not in code 😉

Edit: apparently there are a number of pci sound cards with win3.1 drivers.

Last edited by Dominus on 2012-11-30, 10:22. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 6 of 10, by FeedingDragon

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Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 had a PCI version as well. Windows 3.1 had built in Sound Blaster drivers, though creative labs did release updated versions as well. I seem to recall my PCI SB16 working fine in Windows 3.1, but I'm not 100% sure about that, it may have been an ISA card with 3.1, and I didn't get the PCI card until Windows 95. I do remember that when I got the SB Live!, I think it was, the DOS drivers (absolutely requred to use the card in DOS and huge memory hogging TSRs,) were total crap (and they haven't improved any since then either.)

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Reply 7 of 10, by pyrogx

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There are several PCI soundcards with Win3.1 drivers (ALS4000, Crystal Soundfusion, Ensoniq AudioPCI, Aureal Vortex1), but these drivers are useless in OS/2 and WinOS/2 sessions. The only PCI cards with WinOS/2 drivers AFAIK are the SoundFusion based cards (CS4280, CS4614, CS4624). All other cards including AudioPCI (SoundBlaster PCI and friends) do not have special drivers for Win3.1 under OS/2.
There is also a generic WinOS/2 audio driver (search for genaud-v3.1r02.zip) which works with any soundcard with OS/2 support, but its compatibility is said to be questionable.

Reply 8 of 10, by mattrock1988

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Wow thanks for sharing that information! I had no idea. Now if I can find the card you mentioned on eBay so that Win-OS/2 doesn't complain... 😀

I tried the generic audio UNIAUD driver, and quite frankly, it sucks. Win-OS/2 most of the time won't even recognize that the sound resource is free and usable.

EDIT: Would this be the correct card to get btw?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crystal-CS4280-CM-64- … =item1c2d5d03e8

Matt

Reply 9 of 10, by pyrogx

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Would this be the correct card to get btw?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crystal-CS4280-...1c2d5d03e8

Yes, it should work.
Btw, UNIAUD and GenAud are two different beasts: the former is a universal audio driver for OS/2 that supports many chips, the latter is a generic audio driver for Win3.1-Sessions in OS/2.

Reply 10 of 10, by mattrock1988

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Aaah... thanks for the clarification then good sir. Much obliged. 😀

I just hit Hobbes and downloaded the drivers ahead of time. I'm not entirely sure my eComStation installation CDs will come with the necessary out-of-the-box support.

Matt