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First post, by BEEN_Nath_58

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I will need to give an explanation first. Some early Win32 games, during the Win9X era used certain DOS components. They were internal engine components while the main game was basically Win32. An example is Power Chess by Sierra, the executable is Win32 based but one of the required executables for it, RUN386.EXE is DOS based, so you can't directly run it on 64-bit OS until you have NTVDMx64. What other similar games exist? I am curious.

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Reply 3 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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leileilol wrote on 2022-03-26, 22:48:

Extreme Paintbrawl probably.

Yup I see DOS executables launching a Windows based game, even it wants to configure Sound Blaster settings from within Windows. I can go only to the main mmus and it crashed. Interesting find! Let me know more when you know.

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Reply 4 of 16, by thepirategamerboy12

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I actually did find a way of getting Extreme Paintbrawl to fully work on Windows XP+. You had to modify some batch files to start DOSBox at certain times. Only problem is that if your graphics card doesn't support the 640x400 menus, you're fucked.

Reply 5 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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thepirategamerboy12 wrote on 2022-03-27, 08:25:

I actually did find a way of getting Extreme Paintbrawl to fully work on Windows XP+. You had to modify some batch files to start DOSBox at certain times. Only problem is that if your graphics card doesn't support the 640x400 menus, you're fucked.

NVIDIA takes me as low to 320x200. i don't think that was even a problem. The problem appears after i take a weapon and about to start playing, it crashes. I am open to head to your suggestions

It also seems like other games of same engine have Windows/DOS ports, such as Blood, which I only played on DOS.

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Reply 6 of 16, by xcomcmdr

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BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2022-03-27, 05:42:

Power Chess 98

The original Power Chess too.

Power Chess has DOS (for the core), Win16 (WinG), DirectSound, and Win32 (Win32 controls and a Win32 console program) components.

As such, it only works with Windows 9X.

It won't run on Windows 2000/XP or any NT-based system.

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Reply 7 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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xcomcmdr wrote on 2022-03-27, 10:18:
The original Power Chess too. […]
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BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2022-03-27, 05:42:

Power Chess 98

The original Power Chess too.

Power Chess has DOS (for the core), Win16 (WinG), DirectSound, and Win32 (Win32 controls and a Win32 console program) components.

As such, it only works with Windows 9X.

Yes I mentioned it in the first post.

It can work in Windows 11, thus I was motivated for this thread, using NTVDMx64

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Reply 9 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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xcomcmdr wrote on 2022-03-27, 10:20:

Did you really manage to get it to run with NTVDM ?

Yes he made a patch for it too, leecher1337

https://sourceforge.net/p/dxwnd/discussion/ge … d46dfc6/?page=1

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Reply 11 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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xcomcmdr wrote on 2022-03-27, 13:56:

Wow, this is fantastic news ! 😁

I'm so glad this was finally fixed. And for both versions of the game, too ! Awesome work !

Let me get some time, I'll ask around about the game Extreme Paintbrawl. There are other games on the same engine too, but I couldn't find their Windows adaptations (Wiki suggests they exist), only the DOS versions are what I found or played.

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Reply 13 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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leileilol wrote on 2022-03-28, 01:55:

Only Extreme Paintbrawl is the hybrid. The others (prior to 201x rereleases and 200x dosbox repack releases) are just windows installers for strictly dos games

Did Wikipedia make the sites updated on those games after DOSBox release (GOG/Steam) or was there an original DOS release?

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Reply 14 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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You know what's interesting, the Extreme Paintbrawl's Windows interaction works fine on DxWnd, I included the profile if you want to test (You may want too add the 640x400 resolution to your driver, or use the Run in Window setting of DxWnd):

On XP, the game crashes with "DPMI_mapPhysicalToLinear ()" error. IIRC, there's something NOLFB or something for these, am I correct, anyone have it?

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Reply 15 of 16, by javispedro1

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Not entirely related, but also a lot of Win32 applications shipped with a win16 setup.exe .
There's a specific hack so that those can still be installed in 64-bit Windows : https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20 … 1031-00/?p=2783

Reply 16 of 16, by BEEN_Nath_58

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For those who are interested, Extreme Paintbrawl has probably been patched.
https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64/issues/182

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