Reply 20 of 26, by Bruninho
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BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2023-11-06, 21:14:Although the thread is getting hacked and this particular conversation won't go anywhere and having heard enough, so I will be settling the points here-
The reason when I said "unreasonable" is behind standardisation. Most of the apps I run are either from 1995-2005 or the absolute latest. For 95% of games of the older era, WineVDM absolutely worked fine and I didn't have to step forward to search for any other 16bit machine. It was a standard way to install games. Of course issues existed, there were major bugs in the Sierra installers and some Civilization games (?) too that I reported and got fixed.
Of course not everybody needs the standardised method when it's a rare usage, such as your case, or reporting a bug and waiting to be fixed can also be a turn-off. For me who would otherwise have to go and search for an alternative installer every once and then because I have to install 10 times more games (over 250 atleast on 2 1TB hdds, reason - DxWnd), the standardisation is a more reasonable option.
"Standardisation", I call that BS. The alternate installer is a quick and perfect solution. You don't have to search for it. It's there on each game's pcgamingwiki page to be downloaded. It has nothing to do with "Reporting a bug and waiting to be fixed". The alternate installer already solves that exact problem and the games does run fine. So why bother with WineVDM?
The same alternate installer can even be reused for other games - most of them used the same install method, so the alternate installer is very handy.
"Rare usage"... No, it's not my case. I dont know what gave you the impression that I don't play any game regularly, but I do. I have more than 120 games from the 80's and 90's in my collection and I play all of it regularly. To me, it's simply more logical to use the alternate installer, install the game and discard the installer, than installing extra software for it (WineVDM is the one that actually requires "reporting bugs and waiting to be fixed").
I don't know why you're so pushy about WineVDM, unless you're probably one of the developers or a a big fan of it.
I see a point for having installed things like nGlide, DxWnd, dgVoodoo. But not for WineVDM when I can see the games running without it.
"Although the thread is getting hacked and this particular conversation won't go anywhere and having heard enough, so I will be settling the points here-"
Indeed, this convo won't go anywhere. Let's just agree that we strongly disagree, especially when both sides won't concede on their points, and move on from it, so we don't hijack the OP's thread.
I am not here for a flame war, I just pointed out that WineVDM is not really needed at all and these games can be played without it.
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