TVs aren't really the same as the old monitors.

you tell me this why? make me an example i want some images.... 😊 😐

Granularity of the dot mask

Actually, the Commodore 1084 series (and similar, such as the Microvitec CUB) are pretty much just crt tv's without a tuner (the dot pitch is definitely closer to tv specs than monitor - which hides some of the low res nastiness on older systems).

They work on 15khz RGB mind, rather than 31khz you get from VGA, so you will need to drive them with suitable video modes. VGA probably won't work without fudging. RGB SCART from older consoles/computers is fine.

Yea these Amiga monitors where basically TVs with RGB connectors and monitor controls for position and size.

However I believe they might have a different coating, geared towards high contrast and fast moving content and maybe tighter QA regarding focusing if the beams.

i will buy a 1084s commodore monitor for 60 euros, what do you think ?

Does it have Scart? IMO look for an Amiga monitor with Scart. It will make life a lot easier with consoles and things like that.

imo who is? yes the philips have a rgb out for cga i will buy a cga cable...

imo who is? yes the philips have a rgb out for cga i will buy a cga cable...

I can't decipher exactly what you're trying to say there... But if you're asking whether the monitor in the picture will accept CGA, then yes, if you switch the 'RGB mode' to digital, it should work with a CGA input.

ok i can buy this monitor? can connect to a cga card ..

The question is whether you really want to pay 60€ for it. If you get one in good condition, it seems like a fair deal, but make sure it really works before buying it. The 1084 series was notorious for failures because of cheap construction.

Another one to look for is the Phillips 8823 - which is basically the same hardware as the 1084.

The 9 pin D connector pinouts are available in loads of places - you should be able to hook both analogue (SCART, 15khz RGB etc) and digital (TTL level stuff; BBC Micro, ZX Spectrum etc) stuff up to it as it can be converted between the two modes via the digital/analogue switch you've shown.

There are *lots* of variants of the 1084 - the best ones to hold out for will have 9-pin D connector, RGB SCART socket and stereo speakers. The CM8823 also has a similar array of slightly different models with different sets of connectors!

now i will do the cga cable , i don't find it in the stores!!!