Hi All!
I want some feedback on using DOS versions of borland pascal, boland c and DOS Fox Pro ... on DosBox.
So if anyone programmed using these programs in DosBox, please give your feedback about any problems found in programming under DosBox.
Programming language behaviour under DosBox is welcome too!
Thank you in advance!
Borland's Turbo Pascal 7 works in windows XP NTVDM (cmd.exe).
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I remember having problems with keyboard using the Turbo Pascal directly in NTVDM ages ago... Not that it would not be usable, but there were some problems. IMHO DOSBOX is better.
I think that Borland/Tubo Pascal/C++ compilers should work ok in DOSBOX. I did not test it recently, but I did it some months ago... I think that at the time there were even fixed some bugs occuring specifically in these programs...
So just try, you should have no problems...
I do not know about FoxBase/FoxPro...
Mirek
I want to try DosBox for the same reason:
-16 bit [DOS] applications like Turbo C 3.1 uses NTVDM.EXE, which makes high CPU usage.
-so if you ever have to use 2 or more 16bit programs at the same time with the native XP dos-subsystem, your PC slows down very much, could be even unusable.
If you have solutions for the native XP/2k Dos susystem's NTVDM.EXE's high CPU usage, post those here. It would help me.
I tried to set the Idle Sensitivity to High, and I tried using the dpakbd.com.
These two solutions, together reduced my CPU usage, but still, if I use Borland Pascal 7 and Borland C 3 at the same time, CPU is too high and the machine is slowed down.
[I must mention that I need this solution for a school, where students learn Pascal, C/C++ and FoxPro with 16bit DOS IDEs]
Thanks
wrote:If you have solutions for the native XP/2k Dos susystem's NTVDM.EXE's high CPU usage, post those here. It would help me.
Your problem is not with the NTVDM, it is with the keyboard handling of the Borland IDE...
For the WinXP NTVDM try this commercial product: Tame for WinNT, Win2K and WinXP.
Hope this helps,
dvwjr
for dvwjr: I can't use Tame, because it's not free. I seek for a free solution for non-production institutes, like a school. 😉
Thanks anyway, dvwjr. 😀
I think I remember some command line utilities for NTVDM that perform the same function that Tame does.....can't remember what they were tho. I do know that they were intended for Terminal service environments where people use NTVDM alot.
I searched over and over for those "commandline utilities"... found nothing usefull...
But!... for others seeking information about NTVDM on XP and 2k, or about DosBox.... :
- the NTVDM high CPU usage CAN be solved with TameDos [version 4 works on XP], or if seeking for a free solution, DPAKBD.COM is the answer.
TameDOS is better, but DPAKBD works also.
- as for DOSBox and 16Bit programming IDEs.... I've tested, not so deeply, Borland Pascal 7 on Dosbox, worked well, but those who have to use it, must get used to work with DosBox.
Links:
http://www.tamedos.com/
ftp://ftp.citrix.com/utilities/dpakbd.zip
I ended using an older version of TameDOS [evaluation], but it was really exciting to "play" with DosBox. So, if someone wants a good dos emulator, I confidently advice him/her to use DosBox.
Keep Up the good work 😉
All my respect,
atti_simon
dpakbd was the one I was thinking of.
Don't forget that you can get patches for the TP7 compiler (or the TPL libraries, anyway) that will prevent the Runtime Error 200 bug from cropping up in the programs you compile.
wrote:I want to try DosBox for the same reason: -16 bit [DOS] applications like Turbo C 3.1 uses NTVDM.EXE, which makes high CPU usage […]
I want to try DosBox for the same reason:
-16 bit [DOS] applications like Turbo C 3.1 uses NTVDM.EXE, which makes high CPU usage.
-so if you ever have to use 2 or more 16bit programs at the same time with the native XP dos-subsystem, your PC slows down very much, could be even unusable.If you have solutions for the native XP/2k Dos susystem's NTVDM.EXE's high CPU usage, post those here. It would help me.
I tried to set the Idle Sensitivity to High, and I tried using the dpakbd.com.
These two solutions, together reduced my CPU usage, but still, if I use Borland Pascal 7 and Borland C 3 at the same time, CPU is too high and the machine is slowed down.
[I must mention that I need this solution for a school, where students learn Pascal, C/C++ and FoxPro with 16bit DOS IDEs]
You can replace Borland/Turbo Pascal 7 and Borland/Turbo C++ 3 with FreePascal 2.0 and Free Borland C++ 5.5 (~100% backward compatible 32-bit compilers).
Yes, you can use free pascal.
But if you really want to use bp 7 in dosbox: I have not encountered any problems yet.
