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Reply 802 of 1408, by sharangad

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RaVeN-05 wrote on 2024-03-20, 10:08:

Oh its year ago, and i found it today.

It works well, unlike the half-baked version I churned out.

It uses different opcodes. I interpreted 0x00000000 to be add %0, %0, #0 or something, but in this it's treated as a noop.

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Reply 803 of 1408, by RaVeN-05

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other sources worth to mention:
https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?u … t&Number=115356
https://pcem-emulator.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic. … ?p=16797#p16797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_643VTuGdq4&a … nel=MichaelHuth (Wow the another RRide V3 different version to what i saw before)
https://www.techspot.com/article/2598-renditi … aphics-history/ and https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/buildin … marbles/page=2/ ("I also got the Verite engineers to "leak" the 2D driver specs......")
https://www.filfre.net/2023/05/the-next-gener … meets-hardware/ (just fresh article )
https://websrv.cecs.uci.edu/~papers/mpr/MPR/A … CLES/100304.pdf (too many infos about rendition , very old)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.g … n/c/Earze0leo4g (very very old google groups forum)
https://www.techspot.com/article/2598-renditi … aphics-history/ and https://www.techspot.com/images2/trivia/bigim … 07-24-image.jpg (this is old web site reference, can't find it on archive.org)

i will try to review all verite games and drivers also, maybe we will find something also.

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Reply 804 of 1408, by RaVeN-05

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Well i decided to look into bjorn3d.com at archive org i found some files: (WARNING None of those files tested! its unknow if they are harmless, use at own risks, i told you)

https://web.archive.org/web/19980421093100/ht … VMode13_1.0.ZIP - remapping to faster 320x200 mode.

https://web.archive.org/web/19981207051237*/h … les/ver_ini.zip Excel table about verite , unknown what is t.

https://web.archive.org/web/19980421104542/ht … files/vsize.zip App that shows VRAM .

https://web.archive.org/web/19980421104840/ht … files/V2000.zip (Diamond Stealth Beta Drivers)

https://web.archive.org/web/19980421105043/ht … les/rendclk.zip (Dos app that designed for Rendition, unknown even what it does)

https://web.archive.org/web/19980421105432/ht … omp/RRBench.zip another RRedline contest demo, TESTED Its NICE and Beautiful =0
https://web.archive.org/web/19980421105523/ht … comp/update.zip Update for rrbench

https://web.archive.org/web/19981203101037*/h … files/OCv2k.zip (Overclocking app for rendition, i am against overclocking , do not use, don't damage your hardware)

https://web.archive.org/web/19991122031155*/h … _source_109.zip (source code to app which wants to do something on rendition)

https://web.archive.org/web/19991122021329*/h … tils/rrdiag.zip (application that loggs all the rredline calls)

https://web.archive.org/web/20000306040616/ht … heap/rr_lcc.zip (all exports of redline and verite)

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Reply 805 of 1408, by sharangad

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Is there any way to get a copy of the the new rride?

Will check out the other stuff tomorrow.

Does rrbench run against rready?

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Reply 806 of 1408, by RaVeN-05

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Well need to ask MichaelHuth about it.
RRBench runs in RReady everything perfect.

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Reply 807 of 1408, by sharangad

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This:
https://web.archive.org/web/19980421105043/ht … les/rendclk.zip

adjusts direct draw settings like triple buffering via the registry. It has a gui which let's you tweak things.

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Reply 808 of 1408, by sharangad

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RRBench needs forced fullscreen.

RRBench update crashes.

With RReady at least.

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Reply 809 of 1408, by RaVeN-05

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RRBench update is not needed archive already patched by this update , the older version is not on archive org

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Reply 810 of 1408, by sharangad

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Does rride run at 60 fps on V2200?

I'll add rrbench to the redline demos with the next update, hopefully with ICR2 support.

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Reply 811 of 1408, by RaVeN-05

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i can't count fps , by judging of my sight , no , especially fps drops seen on rotation of images going to fill full screen.

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Reply 812 of 1408, by sharangad

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I've figured out the speedy 3d fifo commands or at least I think I do.

Not sure how to identify a primary surface. It's just a block of ram set with vl_setdisplaybase, which generates a v_fifo_display. With rredline the structures passed in identify the surface. With speedy3d all those things are hidden and only the low level structures are accessible like memory buffers.

I'll check out the source dump tomorrow to see how buffer swaps work. Looking at the source feels like cheating.

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Reply 813 of 1408, by elianda

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Someone with Nickname WhiteMagicRaven on youtube asked me to post the files from the 2TheRRedline competition here.

You can find it at my ftp at
ftp://retronn.de/driver/Rendition/2RRedline/

You might as well have a look at the other files, in case you still miss something.

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Reply 816 of 1408, by sharangad

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RRide3 has rendering glitches with RReady. With the background not rendering.

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Reply 817 of 1408, by sharangad

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LameAss, SadTri and TheBomb are variations of the SDK demo of various SDK htri demos. LameAss I think actually is one of the SDK demos.

The other two alter the coordinates of the triangles.

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Reply 818 of 1408, by RaVeN-05

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looks like ToTheRRedline-top8\TDH_Demo is have troubles to use dynamic texturing in RReady , need to check in hardware
ToTheRRedline-top8\R3 looks different
if you look at LameAss directore there is also parts of unpoblished rendition source, that means developers of "ToTheRRedline Contenst" had access to it? Probably under DNA.
So looking carefully into every file there is worth.

Ok Checked on real hardware RRBench looks perfect in RReady
ToTheRRedline-top8\TDH_Demo
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ToTheRRedline-top8\R3
have troubles. Will post video

https://youtu.be/jjZYuuLvBnc

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Reply 819 of 1408, by sharangad

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RaVeN-05 wrote on 2024-03-21, 11:15:
looks like ToTheRRedline-top8\TDH_Demo is have troubles to use dynamic texturing in RReady , need to check in hardware ToTheRRed […]
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looks like ToTheRRedline-top8\TDH_Demo is have troubles to use dynamic texturing in RReady , need to check in hardware
ToTheRRedline-top8\R3 looks different
if you look at LameAss directore there is also parts of unpoblished rendition source, that means developers of "ToTheRRedline Contenst" had access to it? Probably under DNA.
So looking carefully into every file there is worth.

Ok Checked on real hardware RRBench looks perfect in RReady
ToTheRRedline-top8\TDH_Demo
and
ToTheRRedline-top8\R3
have troubles. Will post video

https://youtu.be/jjZYuuLvBnc

I'm trying to fix RRide3 at the mo. It's distracted me from Speedy3D. The front buffer as texture(RenderToTexture) was only implemented for lines (for Quake2 and Hexen II). I've added support for polygons as well but the last two sections (with the bobbing head) and the spinning rectangle don't work properly.

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