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First post, by Kahenraz

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I only have these with two memory chips on them. Are they effectively lower clocked TNT2s with a full 32MB of memory installed?

Reply 1 of 8, by Joseph_Joestar

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-03-15, 17:33:

I only have these with two memory chips on them. Are they effectively lower clocked TNT2s with a full 32MB of memory installed?

I have a Leadtek TNT2 M64 with 32MB and it still has a 64-bit memory interface.

This is detected by Everest, and also evident in the card's lower performance compared to a full TNT2.

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Reply 2 of 8, by Kahenraz

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I wonder if the two memory chips version is actually running as 32-bits then.

Reply 4 of 8, by konc

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What do you mean "still"? The M64 refers to the 64bit memory bus as opposed to the 128bit of the non-M64 cards and 32MB is the max you'll find on these cards.

Reply 5 of 8, by Kahenraz

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havli wrote on 2024-03-15, 17:56:

Photo would help. But 32 MB with only two memory chips is very unlikely.
I would bet on 16MB 64-bit. Like this one http://hw-museum.cz/vga/159/nvidia-riva-tnt2-m64-vanta

When I see half the number of memory chips, it's often accompanied by halving the bus. For example, a GeForce 2 MX with 32MB having a 32-bit bus and a GeForce FX 5200 with 128MB having a 64-bit bus.

I was wondering if my 16MB m64 has a 32-bit bus or if by doubling the number of chips could make it work at 128-bits.

The question is whether the 64-bit bus is a limitation of the GPU or a result of the memory configuration.

Reply 6 of 8, by havli

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TnT2 m64 can use two GPUs - one is regular NV5 like full 128-bit TNT2 uses. And then there is cost reduced version that physically has only 64-bit bus. Either way, the PCB always has only 64 bits routed as a maximum.

16MB m64 will be always 64-bit. Either using two 32-bit chips or four 16-bit chips.

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Reply 7 of 8, by rasz_pl

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I have only good memories of Vantas LTs M64s (could never tell which is which). They were cheaper than even normal TNT, and all the ones I had/sold overclocked fabulously to above TNT performance. Fantastic budget option in 1999-2000 when someone didnt want to go used card route.

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Reply 8 of 8, by Kahenraz

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I used a Vanta in a secondary computer as well. It felt quite fast at the time, although I can't say that I ever ran anything particularly demanding on it.