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First post, by rain

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Hi ive Mx86251fc 4 mb voodoo rush card. Im asking which games are best for this card?using dx5-dx6. For example croc is running fine.

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Reply 1 of 21, by dominusprog

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Well, it entirely depends on your taste. NFS 2, POD and Turok to name a few.

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Reply 2 of 21, by rain

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dominusprog wrote on 2024-05-18, 18:30:

Well, it entirely depends on your taste. NFS 2, POD and Turok to name a few.

I tried quake2 (not working) and carmageddon2 (very slow low fps)

I think these games too new for rush card?

Reply 3 of 21, by DrAnthony

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Rush was a bit of an odd duck. The performance was well below the original Voodoo so even something like a Rage Pro is roughly comparable (if lacking in features/image quality). You can't really expect 30 fps at 640x480 in many titles. Dropping to 512x384 brought nice gains on a Voodoo, it might make sense here as well.

Reply 4 of 21, by rain

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DrAnthony wrote on 2024-05-19, 01:36:

Rush was a bit of an odd duck. The performance was well below the original Voodoo so even something like a Rage Pro is roughly comparable (if lacking in features/image quality). You can't really expect 30 fps at 640x480 in many titles. Dropping to 512x384 brought nice gains on a Voodoo, it might make sense here as well.

do you know how to change resolution in carmageddon 2 ?

Reply 5 of 21, by pete8475

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rain wrote on 2024-05-19, 07:37:
DrAnthony wrote on 2024-05-19, 01:36:

Rush was a bit of an odd duck. The performance was well below the original Voodoo so even something like a Rage Pro is roughly comparable (if lacking in features/image quality). You can't really expect 30 fps at 640x480 in many titles. Dropping to 512x384 brought nice gains on a Voodoo, it might make sense here as well.

do you know how to change resolution in carmageddon 2 ?

IIRC I don't think you can, I'm pretty sure it's 640x480 in 3d accelerated mode and that's it.

Reply 6 of 21, by rain

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pete8475 wrote on 2024-05-19, 07:51:
rain wrote on 2024-05-19, 07:37:
DrAnthony wrote on 2024-05-19, 01:36:

Rush was a bit of an odd duck. The performance was well below the original Voodoo so even something like a Rage Pro is roughly comparable (if lacking in features/image quality). You can't really expect 30 fps at 640x480 in many titles. Dropping to 512x384 brought nice gains on a Voodoo, it might make sense here as well.

do you know how to change resolution in carmageddon 2 ?

IIRC I don't think you can, I'm pretty sure it's 640x480 in 3d accelerated mode and that's it.

Yea, even full version not have resolutoin option...

Reply 7 of 21, by luk1999

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rain wrote on 2024-05-18, 21:11:

I tried quake2 (not working) and carmageddon2 (very slow low fps)

I think these games too new for rush card?

I've finished Q2 for the first time on my Rush. Framerate was good enough in 640x480 but not great (on Celeron 266).
Rush should be enough to play any 1997 3d game and most of 1998 titles (except maybe Unreal, Half life, NFS3 and Carmageddon 2). You can try to lower resolution to 512x384 (as suggested) but I remember that my card had issues with this mode...

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Reply 8 of 21, by rain

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luk1999 wrote on 2024-05-19, 08:08:
rain wrote on 2024-05-18, 21:11:

I tried quake2 (not working) and carmageddon2 (very slow low fps)

I think these games too new for rush card?

I've finished Q2 for the first time on my Rush. Framerate was good enough in 640x480 but not great (on Celeron 266).
Rush should be enough to play any 1997 3d game and most of 1998 titles (except maybe Unreal, Half life, NFS3 and Carmageddon 2). You can try to lower resolution to 512x384 (as suggested) but I remember that my card had issues with this mode...

is your card mx too? Iknow there are versions of rush

Reply 10 of 21, by luk1999

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I had 6 MB version with MX 2D but it was 25-26 years ago. 😉

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Reply 12 of 21, by Babasha

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rain wrote on 2024-05-20, 21:40:
Have you proplems like this with your card […]
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luk1999 wrote on 2024-05-20, 20:26:

I had 6 MB version with MX 2D but it was 25-26 years ago. 😉

Have you proplems like this with your card

https://youtu.be/v8Q11Xpj7Mw

https://youtu.be/_GT_s-IaxTI

Too high memory clock - solve it with .inf file edit or registry patch.

Need help? Begin with photo and model of your hardware 😉

Reply 13 of 21, by rain

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Babasha wrote on 2024-05-20, 22:39:
rain wrote on 2024-05-20, 21:40:
Have you proplems like this with your card […]
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luk1999 wrote on 2024-05-20, 20:26:

I had 6 MB version with MX 2D but it was 25-26 years ago. 😉

Have you proplems like this with your card

https://youtu.be/v8Q11Xpj7Mw

https://youtu.be/_GT_s-IaxTI

Too high memory clock - solve it with .inf file edit or registry patch.

Do you know which file to edit , im new at voodoo cards 😀

Reply 14 of 21, by danieljm

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rain wrote on 2024-05-21, 00:27:
Babasha wrote on 2024-05-20, 22:39:
rain wrote on 2024-05-20, 21:40:

Have you proplems like this with your card

https://youtu.be/v8Q11Xpj7Mw

https://youtu.be/_GT_s-IaxTI

Too high memory clock - solve it with .inf file edit or registry patch.

Do you know which file to edit , im new at voodoo cards 😀

That might not apply to your card. As I understand it, the drivers for the Alliance version overclock the 2D chip by default, causing corruption. You can read more about it in the Voodoo Rush section of the 1st post in this thread. There may be something similar for the Macronix cards, but I'm not familiar with it.

Reply 15 of 21, by Babasha

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rain wrote on 2024-05-21, 00:27:
Babasha wrote on 2024-05-20, 22:39:
rain wrote on 2024-05-20, 21:40:

Have you proplems like this with your card

https://youtu.be/v8Q11Xpj7Mw

https://youtu.be/_GT_s-IaxTI

Too high memory clock - solve it with .inf file edit or registry patch.

Do you know which file to edit , im new at voodoo cards 😀

I dont own Macronix version of Rush but i edit .inf file (delete any sections with memory frequencies higher or slower than 60MHz)
Find it in attach

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Need help? Begin with photo and model of your hardware 😉

Reply 16 of 21, by rain

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Babasha wrote on 2024-05-21, 08:48:
rain wrote on 2024-05-21, 00:27:
Babasha wrote on 2024-05-20, 22:39:

Too high memory clock - solve it with .inf file edit or registry patch.

Do you know which file to edit , im new at voodoo cards 😀

I dont own Macronix version of Rush but i edit .inf file (delete any sections with memory frequencies higher or slower than 60MHz)
Find it in attach

No not work 🙁 same flickering picture.. thanks anyway maybe card is broken

Reply 18 of 21, by rain

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here is two pictures from card , im new at repairing cards , so is there any broken parts or must clean parts on card? thanks.

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Reply 19 of 21, by rain

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Good news gta2 is runing with glide but ive to use "single planar" driver for alliance card with regular mx driver.

is also work with mx card i guess?

When game is work im reinstall windows for clean setup. Using same alliance driver gives me same error above.

Do i need some files from alliance driver into mx driver???